As I’ve said elsewhere, a great disappointment.
Too many disconnected camera flashes & no real story.
Even knowing our history, I found it too difficult to follow & switched off.
Little to do with the main topic but, for a bit of fun ……………….
HMS Argus, in 1941, had a ramp shielding the accelerator. We were told to hold the aircraft (Hurricane) down until it hit the ramp.
How stupid can you get? Two of us (not me) smashed our u/c on it & had to crash land in Russia. GREAT advertisement??
Live & Learn?
Never realised that the ‘Martlets’ in HMS Victorious – escorting us to Russia – were ‘Wildcats. So – I have flown a ‘Martlet’ then – when it was a ‘Wildcat’!!
And a Hellcat for that matter.
Only just picked that up today from http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=105008;article=16437;title=The%20Battle%20of%20Britain%20Historical%20Society%20Discussion%20Forum
Brilliant!
Address? That’s why I posted the photo!
Drain coolant? Don’t know. Engines were shrouded with a heater below.
Tropical Filters? It’s all written somewhere but can’t think where right now.
Mickey? Not really – except when he tried to join up with a flight of Bf 109s!! There might be a lead in Griffith’s book? http://ww2airfronts.org/Theaters/eto/rinr/rinr-0.html
504? No – joined from 601.
Thanks, RV7 – for that link to Phil – looking happy as ever!
The DVD?? Oh, DO buy it – done on a shoe-string – mostly theirs – by Atoll Productions.
And, for good value, you can hear him, & me, doing our bit.

PS – that’s me on the cover!!
= Tim
Bit of nostalgia? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/photo04/RAF2/bofbfilm.jpg
Signed by Galland. Lovely chap!
Ah – the Super Connie!
Handled one of those with El Al’s Chief Pilot in 1958 when he was converting Israeli fighter pilots to civil.
Delightful!
Aeronaut – The lateral white strips on the Havoc’s wings were intended – much like what I said?
Formation was hairy enough but when you had to drop down, on instruments, & accelerate ahead of the A20 before it illuminated ******************* Truly not my scene!! Never was an ace at night work.
B17 – just LOVE the Bush Pilot’s dilemma!! Almost equal to some of yours?
For B17Sam. If I had a forelock left to tug, I would do the same.
I often wonder if someone who has survived all that, can return to a normal life. Hours of Hell. Don’t you have constant flashbacks? I could not have done it in a month of Sundays – as they say.
Sorry that we never had the privilege of escorting you – the P51 could do it better!
= Tim
A photo PLEASE??
Kev – yes, thanks, I have “Hurricats”.
Now this is just amazing! I should not continue in this thread but – trying always to keep history historically correct – I have to comment.
We now see how History can be made or unmade. Of all the 75 pilots – http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/photo04/RAF2/msfu-1.jpg – I record in MSFU, I have no Stewart. And yet – he was there & ‘did it’!!
Just goes to show?? And I thought that I was fairly meticulous in my records.
NO WAY!!
If you want to know how to be a ‘hero’ without trying, read what I wrote up for the Children.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/photo04/RAF2/life.jpg
Never had it so good?
= Tim
Excuse the typos!
All brave or reckless, adventurous, dutiful, but unassuming to a man!
With a 1 in 6 chance of surviving a tour of ops, the only one that applies is Dutiful? Brave would have been to opt out – LMF. I truly don’t believe that I could have coped. They must have realised when they sent me to Fighters.
Back to thread –
1. Running/Station Keeping Lights – wouldn’t those-over-there have just loved that? Like we did when harrassing their airfields at night.
2. Remember, for what it’s worth, that night was not always pitch dark?
3. The nearest we got to these luxuries was on Turbinlite ops.
The A20 Havoc, with the searchlight, had a white strip along the s/bd wing edge. You can just make it out in the photo? We, in Hurricanes, had to formate on take-off & thereafter on this strip – illuminated by a small narrow angled light.
That was bad enough but, when a Havoc’s tyre burst on take-off, we lost one great chap.

= Tim
Landing on a grass airfield with only Glim Lamps – no other lights anywhere – was never my sense of fun!!
= Tim
PS – Clear decks – coming in full load!! 