Hi, I’m neither a Muslim nor a Christian, nor am i from Denmark or any western country for that matter.

My take >> I’ll quote the great Voltaire.

“I do not agree with what you have to say, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it.”

P.S : Here are the cartoons form Jyllands-Posten >> http://epaper.jp.dk/30-09-2005/demo/JP_04-03.html

The cartoons are in bad taste, but it IMHO is not wrong to publish it.The Muslim reactions to this are way too excessive and immature IMHO.

I hope the protesting muslims understand that Denmark is a soverign nation and its press is free unlike in their society.

Religion IMHO is a set of ideas that is open to question and criticism. I am Hindu and live in India and i will take in the stride if such a thing is done on my very own religion, although i would’nt be too pleased about it.

Instead of questioning the right to publish sensetive things, IMHO the debate should be about the contents of the cartoon.

I salute the Danish Government for not giving to pressure and not apologising for the acts. There was no need for the newspaper to do so as well IMHO.

Newspapers in Iran and Pakistan are full of racist slur of far greater magnitude (about Judaism, Buddhism, Jainism, Christianity, Israel, India, etc..) almost everyday. I winder how the world would have been if the rest of the non-islamic world had reacted to such silly things in the way these guys are :rolleyes:

If the rest of the world were to follow their madrassa logic then there sould have been mass murders and water tight embargoes and sanctions in retaliation for the hundreds of flags of Denmark, Israel, USA, UK, etc that these guys burn (again justified as ‘Freedom’ in the Islamic world) – often residing in the same countries ! 😡

The engines are inherently defective and that is why they fail prematurely.

Come on man … you should consider operating conditions for which the engines were rated (most probably for Russian weather conditions (cold?) and manner of use). Indian climate and air composition and manner of use might have given different results.

Its pretty well known that Indian weather conditions are different from those in other parts of the world and infact this was a major design consideration for the indigenous Kaveri engine (although progress on the same is sluggish to say the least – for a variety of reasons)

A few seconds Pebble ingestion can wipe out the equivalent of several flying hours of the engine blades.

In addition there is a major doubt on Russian grading and caliberation of the life of engines. The RD-33 expierence with several countries bears testymony.

No wonder you can’t get your engineering projects off the ground.

I am surprised and saddened by such statements from corbato – originally percieved to be a level headed, rational, non-flamehappy bloke. Guess i was wrong :rolleyes:

Although i would feel tempted to reply to that with a lengthy “Take a look at your own house – does anything that does not involve shameless illegal copying ‘take off’ from there?” tone of post – i guess i wont venture out to that. Instead i’ll just sit back and take a look at all the insulting slur by the usual last word wanting culprits that this thread was destined to see till it eventually got closed.

IMHO x v/s y threads of hostile nature should disallowed.

Lockheed Martin may source F-16 parts from HAL

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NEW DELHI: American giant Lockheed Martin is looking at the possibility of sourcing components from Hindustan Aeronautics for its popular F-16 fighter aircraft. The US company is also looking at other possibilities for partnership with Indian companies.

The scope of ties with Indian companies could include transfer of technology and joint production, Robert H Trice, senior vice president, Lockheed Martin, said today.

Indian firms have the capability and we see strong partnerships in the long-term, he told ET after announcing his company’s participation at the DefExpo India.

The level of co-operation would subject to government rules on transfer of technology. At the current juncture it is considered that the prospects are bright since India and the US are looking at a strategic partnership that covers various areas including security.

I wonder is Lockheed will be interested in this without India buying F-16’s :diablo:

Instead of x vs y … here is something more positive to discuss :

India-China naval exercises

India and China have begun a rare joint naval exercise on Monday in the waters off coastal Kochi city, reflecting a growing thaw in bilateral military ties despite an unsettled border dispute between the two countries.

Chinese missile destroyers Shenzhen and supply ship Weishanhu will conduct drills with Indian warships, the second such exercise between the two countries.

However, this is for the first time Chinese forces will take part in a joint exercise in the Indian territory. The previous first joint naval exercise was conducted two years ago off Shanghai.

Relations between the nuclear powers have been steadily if slowly improving, and their rapid emergence as economic superpowers forms a strong foundation for greater cooperation.

But there is still a long way to go and an end to the border issue could still be years off, although both sides appear to be moving toward accepting the status quo along their frontier.

China also agreed to back India’s bid for a U.N. Security Council seat and Wen urged greater cooperation between the two countries at multilateral bodies such as the World Trade Organization

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The Arrow 2 missile approaches the target at a maximum speed of Mach 9, or 2.5km/s, to a maximum altitude of 50,000 m.

Read the contents of this link : http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/missile_systems/surface_missiles/arrow/Arrow.html

PS: India alredy has the Arrow system’s GREEN PINE RADAR & check this out as well :

Thales offers latest missile detecting radars to India

French defence major, [b][u]Thales has offered an across the board technology transfer to India in state-of-art radar knowhow to help New Delhi move speedily towards bridging the gaps in its air space coverage, specially in detecting low flying intrusions.[/b][/u]

Undettered by the recent US efforts at political level to muscle into the lucrative Indian market, Thales with an almost 50 year presence in India has set up an Indian subsidiary and is also offering to set up joint ventures in the country.

Jean Paul Perrier, Chief Executive of the 13 billion Euro multi-European company, Thales said his company was now offering to India its latest three dimension Herakles multi- function radars for the Indian Navy’s latest range of lethal indigenous P15 and P17 type frigates.

“The radars have the capability to detect incoming missiles, aircraft, helicopters as well as low-flying Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAV’S) as well as guide missiles and other weapons to deal with these threats,” Perrier told visiting Indian newsmen as the company unveiled the latest range of radars at Lnemore facility in the city suburbs.

The Herakles MFR-30 can perform in any weather conditions and have back scanning capability enabling it to release missiles to intercept incoming missiles threats, a capability which Indian armed forces lack so far.

Though US efforts at political level have caused some ripples in the French Defence industry, which is India’s third largest arms trading partner, Perrier told PTI that Thales was not unduly worried over the American onslaught.

“French companies will not shy away from competition. All we want is a level playing field to let our weapons platform and systems speak for themseleves,” he said.

“We were pitted against the Israelis, who could not match our systems and we are confident that we can outmatch any new bidders” Perrier said.

India was to procure 19 LLTR’s under the deal with the rest to be manufactured by BEL under full technology transfer. Though there is no no official word from the Defence Ministry, high-level defence officials said the Israeli bid was rejected as it did not not meet Indian qualitative standards.

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India’s Green pine radars
India has alredy bought the Green Pine radar form Israel :

The Elta Green Pine early warning and fire control radar for the Arrow system can [u]detect targets at ranges up to about 500km and is able to track targets at speeds over 3,000m/s. The radar illuminates the target and guides the interceptor missile to within 4m of the target. [/u]

The Arrow Weapon System features a state-of-the-art EL/M2080 L-band radar, Green Pine, based on the decades of experience in developing technological solutions for early warning and fire control defense systems.
The Elta Electronic Industries subsidiary of IAI Electronic Group developed the Green Pine early warning and fire control radar for the Arrow system. The radar carries the designation EL/M-2090 and includes the trailer mounted radar and antenna array, the power generator, a cooling system and a radar control centre.

Green Pine is an electronically scanned, solid state, phased array radar operating at L-band in the range 500MHz to 1,000MHz, and was developed from the Elta Music phased array radar. The radar operates in search, detection, tracking and missile guidance modes simultaneously.

The radar has the following features:

Phased array L-band radar
Dual mode operation – early warning and fire control
Long range acquisition capability – several hundred kilometers
Simultaneous tracking of dozens of Tactical Ballistic Missiles (TBM)
Clear discrimination between TBMs, aircraft and other missiles
ECCM capability
Transportability

India has placed an order for the supply of two Elta Green Pine for use with India’s air defence system against ballistic missiles. The first was delivered in 2001. The Green Pine Radar system is already deployed in India. The radar system, developed for Israel’s Arrow anti-missile missile, is a transportable ground-based multimode solid-state phased array radar, capable of predicting impact points of incoming tactical ballistic missiles.

The Green Pine radar’s strategic value along the Indian-Pakistani border is reportedly inestimable. “It covers all of Pakistan’s military command centers and bases between Islamabad, the capital, and the Indian frontier. The system reportedly provides India with surveillance of Pakistan’s nuclear centers and missile sites.

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Regards,
Stealth Spy 🙂

here is a copmilation of recent developments in the field :

Citing an announcement by defense officials at a press conference, India’s The Statesman reports that India could establish an air and missile defense shield for a 200 square kilometer area within five or six years, quoting defense scientists said. Such a system could reportedly be duplicated to protect “big cities and strategic facilities like nuclear reactors and space launching sites against incoming missiles.” The interceptor is said to be a surface-to-air missile with a range of 80-85 km, and another interceptor with a range of about 20 km. The Akash SAM is mentioned as a possible interceptor for such a system; “Meanwhile, the Akash will have some anti-missile system capabilities.”

As for the radars for such a system, Mr M. Natarajan, DRDO chief and scientific advisor to the defense minister, said they might include a phased-array radar placed on an executive jet, such as the Brazilian Embrear. India has already purchased from Israel the Phalcon aircraft-mounted radar system

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India not impressed with the PAC-3 that it was offered

India is not impressed with the PAC-3 missile unit offered with the two-tier US anti-missile defence system, on the grounds that it is slow for the very low reaction period in the sub-continent, and therefore, the Pentagon will demonstrate more advanced technologies when defence minister Pranab Mukherjee visits the country.

Besides more advanced units than PAC-3, the US is offering mid-air jamming systems

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India to outpace the rest of Asia in development and deployment of missiles and missile shields

India plans to outpace Asia and may be rest of the world in missile research and missile shield development and deployment. According to media sources in India, India will invest about Rs. 12,000 crore in the next eight years to produce world-class missiles. According to Prahlada, Director, Hyderabad-based Defence Research and Development Laboratory (DRDL), besides this investment, which will go to industry, another Rs. 1000, crore will be spent on maintaining the missiles and upgrading their technology.

India’s strategic interest is in having a defense alliance with United States to protect India with a missile defense umbrella or shield. The strategic missile defense is considered by Indian defense establishments are most critical. The recent US-India ten-year defense alliance will help India to achieve its goal. India and the United States will sign an Overall Umbrella agreement on Science and Technology during the forthcoming US visit of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. This will further enhance the possibilities of achieving the Indian goals.

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India rules out accepting US missile defence system

India on Tuesday ruled out accepting a missile defence system from the United States.
“There is no question of accepting (a) missile shield from anyone,” Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee told a news conference in reply to a question.

“What we are interested in is developing our own missile programme and we are doing that.”

The United States said last June that it was willing to talk to India about supplying missile defence systems.

“We are willing to talk to India about missile defence. Missile defence is very expensive. So it is not something that India will enter into lightly,” US assistant secretary of state for arms control, Stephen Rademaker, had told reporters on a visit to New Delhi.

India and the United States last week signed a groundbreaking 10-year plan for military cooperation during a visit to Washington by Mukherjee.

India, a Cold War ally of the Soviet Union, has recently moved closer to the United States.

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India pursuing manipulation of ionosphere to fry electronics of incoming warheads

India’s Missile experts realized very well that Ballistic missiles are useless since most countries can manipulate the ionosphere to destroy the missile………focused on frying all the electronics of any incoming ballistic missile that leave the earth’s atmosphere and then reenter the same on the other side of the world………use electromagnetic waves, laser and low frequency arrays to create billions of watts on of energy in the ionosphere to fry all the electronics of an incoming missile.

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India’s Phalcon system to “Neutralize” Pakistani Missiles

Israel’s Phalcon system, previously sold to India, is capable of “neutralizing” Pakistan’s Shaheen II ballisic missile, according to a news report, which came just after Pakistan’s test of the Shaheen II on March 16.

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India rejects PAC-3 and asks for THAAD ; US mum

There was no word on whether the Israeli-American Arrow THAAD missile defense system, which India has previously sought, would also be approved, though Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee did express India’s position that all technology restrictions should be dropped.

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All that the US said on the request for the THAAD

We are willing to talk to India about missile defence. Missile defence is very expensive. So, it is not something that India will enter into lightly,” visiting US assistant secretary of state for arms control, Stephen Rademaker, told reporters.

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Regards,
Stealth Spy 🙂

[COLOR=4]First Naval UAV squadron to be commissioned next month[/COLOR]
Kochi | November 28, 2005 3:36:31 PM IST

The Indian Navy’s first ‘Unmanned Aerial Vehicle’ (UAV) squadron will be commissioned here in January, Flag Officer Commander-in-Chief, Southern Naval Command, Vice-Admiral S C Bangara said today.
Addressing a press conference on board the INS Krishna, anchored off the Southern Naval Command’s headquarters here, Vice-Admiral Bangara said that the Navy’s first UAV unit, which is presently designated as the Intensive Flying and Training Unit (IFTU) since its induction nearly two years ago, will formally be commissioned as a squadron on January six, 2006, by the Chief of Naval Staff Admiral Arun Prakash.

This will be the first Naval UAV squadron, to be stationed at Kochi. Later, more squadrons may be set up elsewhere, he added.

Describing the induction of the UAVs in the services following the Kargil conflict as ”extremely useful”, Vice-Admiral Bangara said that they were ideal for getting real-time information on anything happening on land or sea.

Coming in two versions, short-range and long-range, the UAVs are equipped with state-of-the-art radars and night-time viewing capabilities.

[u]A newly built Fast Attack Craft named INS Bangaram will also be commissioned and based at Kochi next month, he added. [/u]

Also, for the first time, the President’s Fleet Review (PFR) will be held at Vishakapatnam on February 12 and 13. More than 50 ships of the Navy, Coast Guard and merchant ships will participate in the event.