How often is this thing updated ?? …from which satellite does it get the pics ?? isi’nt this spying on other countries ???

And anyone knows why you cant go deep into Bangalore ???

Also, a new article titled THE LCA STORY UNVEILED dealing with some details on project management has come out >> check it out >> http://www.indiadefence.com/LCA%20unveiled.htm

guys, just found something at BR :

a few steps in the right direction 🙂

Lt. Gen. Krishnamachari, post-graduate from the prestigious IIT Chennai… as Controller, Controllerate of Quality Assurance (Special Vehicles) Pune in 1998, the officer spearheaded the indigenisation by reverse engineering of a large number of systems, sub systems and spares of imported armoured fighting /special vehicles of east European origin which [u]resulted in savings of valuable foreign exchange.[/u]

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/News/2002/02-Mar.html

Now i want to see more of such things

The Akash missile is based heavily on the SA-6 and is claimed that Rajendra is similar to the 30N6 Flap-Lid B engagement radar, used by the S-300 ATBM system.

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MISSILES/Akash.html

What does this “based on” imply :confused:

and the SA-6 is oooold, it should have atleast been “based on” the S-300 like China’s FT-2000.

Sure there are advantages of being good…like the co-development of the PAK-FA offer…but that seems only a distant possibility….as we have wasted so much money on financing the torturous indegenous projects that we are left with little to spare for the PAK-FA.

and question : in the brahmos joint venture, does India get the technology transfer of all the know how of all the parts in the missile ??

i am not suggesting that we go plagerise everything we can get our hands on (like our neighbour does)…..we should not take RE as an ideological obsession like them but doing no RE at all is foolish in my openion.

Here are a list of things that i feel we must reverse engineer :
> LCA’s GE F404 engine
> Imported Laser ring gyros on the LCA
> Sea King helicopter spare parts
> Barak SAM
> S-300 PMU-2 system
> Al-31FP core technology (we alredy have deep tech licence)
> T-90s tank (& cancel the 400 more tanks order)
> Leopard-2 and incorporate it into the arjun(’cause it uses the same leo-2 design)
> Disect some Russian/western attack copters and learn its working and use it as the groung work for the LCH
> Long range cruise missile like the Kh-55 that can be got from Ukraine/Russia
> Dhruv engine
> cancel Jaguar licence and make our own ones
> Russian cryogenic engines
> Civilian technologies (like the chinese made the godson-2 processors & chinese cars)

Even if we dont reverse engineer at all, the least that we could do is to disect and study and learn the technologies of every imported system that we acquire. I mean for example if we buy 100 S-300’s instead of deploying all 100, we should give ~10 to DRDO and atleast ask them to disect it and learn its working and internal systems of it, if not re it….imo that must be compulsory.

In addition sending spies to get sensetive state of the art technologies (like china did in the US under the clinton admin) must be pursued aggressively.

Which sounds better :
> spend millions and take ~20 years to make a mid-grade missile like Nag
or
> spend ~2 years and very less money and RE the Lahat ?

Sure engines, electronic systems and software codes cant be RE’s easily…but their technical documents can be obtained through espionage and incorporated.

All in all I dont intend to say we should abondon indegenous developments …but IMO we should disect the latest imported systems and incorporate the know how into our indegeous ones, if reverse engineering and making an outright copy is too big an embaressment.

Another question : Is the JH-7 a development of the J-8B (pic posted above) ???
Does it use the same airframe or is it a totally different one ??

and please answer my previous set of questions/queries as well.

For those who recommend Reverse Engineering, I suggest the section in ‘Weapons of Peace’ in which a team of Air force officers and DRDO scientists reverse engineered the SA-2 SAM System. The issues tht they faced with fabrication and manufacturing special alloys and equpment for it opened my eyes – that RE is not a cakewalk as we make it out to be.

Yeah i know about the reverse engineering of the SA-2 engine for the prithvi…but that was like 20 years back.

But after that, there are no instances of reverse engineering in India at all !!

India has acess to far more technologies from America, Europe and Russia than any nation in the world.

We should learn from China in this aspect (although i hate saying so)

The advantages of Reverse engineering are GREAT and far greater than developing stuff by yourself.

> The RE’d product does not require any extensive and expensive testing as its alredy a proven thing.

> We can get advanced products in like ~5 years and not ~20 years it will take DRDO to develop

> We can learn from the design and improve our tech level

> You can get the final product for 1/10 of the development cost of developing it yourself

> The final product will cost a fraction of what it will cost if imported in large numbers or indegenously developed as there are no R&D costs to negate out.

> We are not developing anything new..these systems alredy exist. Why reinvent the wheel when it alredy exists ?? So we must RE till we come up to the level of the tech that we have acess to and then we can do for indegenous development of new things or things we dont have acess to and we can do so starting form a higher tech level.

> We must also use our great acess to technologies and our migrant population to secretly acquire technical documents on state of the art technologies around the world and make our own stuff.

> Its true that RE is not a child’s play job but its waaaaay easier than developing stuff by yourself from scratch.

It burns me to see nations that started off with a lower tech level than us and used reverse engineering and secret ways of acquiring technology from western/russian sources to get ahead far ahead of us, when we are trying to develop stuff fron scratch rejecting even the offered foreign aid and not utilising our acess to high-technologies(like the deep al-31p licence that geroje j mentioned).

Instead of buying 100 airplanes from xyz country, we can buy around 6-10 of these from various sources that we have acess to and disect them, understand them and make our own with our own inprovements and eventually produce 100 of those for a price that would be a tenth of what it would cost to buy it.

What do you say ????