If you’re having to presume it’s a Frazer Nash turret, how can you be sure the attention to detail is good?

Because it looks very much like the British mid-upper resident on a dolly in the CWH Museum. I happened to be a member there on another project whilst Jim Buckell (sp?) was rebuilding it (The F-N).

Being electrically operated, it probably did work better than the FN and I expect it would have done more damage to enemy nightfighters had it actually ever been used against them (got any examples?) but as for looking better, that’s a matter of opinion. I look at PA474 and I look at FM213: I know which one looks better by a mile.

Examples of a Martin turret against night-fighters? i’m sure there are some – but based upon experience by gunners using similar turrets on Yank aircraft in Daylight/Intruder roles… does it really matter? You yourself concede that it was likely a better piece of kit, eh?

This month I am privileged to have both Lanc’s on my desktop… FM213 in formation with our VwoC Corsair on a recent VC Flypast; and The BBMF aircraft on the screensaver. Yes, I prefer the Martin turret – form following function – better viz., less drag, more “oomph”.

By all means, you are indeed entitled to your opinion, as am I. With apologies to my learned Antipodean friend, and fellow “Ruddy Colonial” – the whole Frazer-Nash company makes me giggle girlishly – all those draggy aluminium bits – and THEN, a chain-driven sports car, in the late Forties, even! :diablo:

Is it a DFS product? German training gliders are not my forté, I’m afraid. 😮

Jawohl, Thomas!

Over to you.

Lovely thread.

What’s the significance of that downed “Emil”? Was it one of Malan’s “kills” in the BoB? Looks like a St. Omer or Abbeville denizen w/ the yellow nose… but I’ve never paid much attention to Nazi unit insignia.

Hippity-hop, eh wot? 34 times?

Here’s another pic, Richard. Sure looks like the same aircraft to me… wingtip & empennage shape, cowling “bumps” and venturi placement…

Thats who I was thinking of! Born in New Zealand …

Teamwork, that’s us! 😀

… the operations of Australian forces were hampered by restrictions placed by McA, which relegated Australian & Dutch units to areas that got little attention and were perceived as being “less important” than those which American troops were tasked with.

Hear, hear! I commented in another thread how many Australians volunteered for, or were sent to, the action in North Africa & Northwest Europe.

However, the “400 Series” Squadrons seemed to have their TRUE identities in parentheses e.g. 410 (RCAF) Squadron, or 455 Squadron (RAAF).

The Australian situation was much worse than ours, in that we were never victims of direct attack, other than some tragic U-Boat action in the St. Lawrence.

In the end, the “Dominions” ended up reporting to either Brit, or American commanders. “Dugout Doug” was certainly the worst offender in diminishing Commonwealth efforts, in my humble opinion.