Funny discussion. The reasoning that the F-22 is not a stealthy design is completely wrong. In fact the more conventional look of the F-22 shows that it is a much more modern stealth design then the F-117 or even the B-2. Which means with current materials, computing power and knowledge the designers could achieve there RCS target without having to make huge compromises on the rest of the design.

RAM itself only plays a very minor part in the design of the Raptor, as even modern RAM is still extremely expensive, quite easy to damage and still a big problem in the daily servicing of the aircraft. Furthermore we must see that a plane totally depending on RAM must convert all incoming radar energy into other forms of energy (read heat). A better designed plane however is capable of just absorbing a bit of the energy and dispersing the reast into different directions, so that the actual return of energy into the direction of the emitter is very much reduced. In fact it is reduced to a point in which the return signal is too weak to be noticed. If you look at all edges of Raptor you see that they are very carefully designed. No 90° corners. Many parallel lines, engines are shielded.
BTW RAM does not reduce the IR signature, in fact it does increase it, although only to a very small ammount.
IR reduction is achieved in the reduced need for the use of an afterburner (supercruise), high speed and a well designed frontal section which has a very smooth design. Furthermore heat is transported from hot ections to cooler section through the use of the internal structures. Even the fuel tanks are used to cool certain airframe sections. A practicse that was already tested in the SR-71.
The european fighters are only RCS reduced. The frontal section of the EF for example is reduced compared to a conventional aircraft. And it is said to work excellent when the emitters is facing the aircraft from certain angles. Look at the earyl EF demonstrator and current series production modells and you will see that some of the stealth research done in europe in the 80ies has found its way into the final EF design. But the level of Stealth of those fighters is much worse, then that of the F-22.

Could we have a the white replaced with gold ??

I want a 7E7 for Condor – a dream come true

The US has control over JDAM like weapons in the way, that US controls the GPS system which is used to guide the weapons. Turn off the GPS, the weapons are unguided.

Sorry, to disappoint you, but it is highly unliekly that Pakistan will get the Grippen.

Reasons :

– swedish laws regarding the export of offensive weapons are pretty strict. They forbid selling such weapons to trouble spots
– the Nuclear weapons programm of Pakistan is another no go
– the US must spprove the sale
– most weapons for Grippen are manufactured in international cooperation, so they would need an export licencse from the cooperating nations for every single weapon
– AMRAAM is unlikely
– Meteor is out of the question
– Israeli weapons are also impossible
– Taurus – no way

It might be a try to convince the US to sell some used F-16s. Nothing more.

Well, I think most of you are looking in the wrong direction.

The interest in more SUs is well known.

However I don´t see Vietnam going for the LCA or the FC-1. They have shown a healthy interest in the new Korean trainer/light fighters. The Wong KTX-1 Wong Bee and the T/A-50 are said to be considered by the Vietnamese for replacement of older Soviet origin types.