Originally posted by Transall
Hi,

We can agree on”idiots” because this message board would censor what I think of them.:mad:

I don’t think the Mig29’s are going to happen, but their smoke would really startle the Greens and their voters.

No amount of Germanizing of Mig29’s will give German companies the kind of work that the Typhoon would provide.

Best regards, Transall.

Don´t tell me, but our current government might think otherwise ..

And if you look at the rumored cuts for the other services, that will hurt.

Well I would guess the following if EF dies.

– Germany, either Rafale or more likely MiG-29 SMTs or SUs
– Britain : american hardware, perhaos F-16 + F-22 ??
– Italian : F-16s till JSF arrives
– Spain : could be F-18 E/Fs (Rafale seems less likely)

Yes all those EF cuts are still rumors, but it is easy to see.

There is a numer of 80 EFs for the Luftwaffe irculating in forums very well informed about such things.

It looks like a deal has been made with british ho also want many aircraft less then the 232 they are getting.

Italy is leaning towards being more closely integrated with the US forces and is already a JSF partner. Rumors are saying that the US is offering them a very good deal on more F-16s + JSF later instead of the Typhoons.

Spain has not offically changed their position, but friends at EADS confirm that the US is offering F-18 E/Fs for very favourable conditions. Kind of a reward for Spains support during OIF.

I would not be surprised if the whole EF programm ist going to be less then 250 planes.

If that happens I´m hopping that the entire programm is terminated instead. It will become to expensive to continue investing money in that unloved aircraft. It will never mature into a real multi-role fighter with so many airframes around.

I hope the politicans see the light and drop this programm forever.