I’ve always wanted to visit the Auto & Technik Museum.

I can perhaps understand the bias towards the technical side of exhibits; the war being ‘problematic’ for modern Germany but I think generally in Germany there is a far higher respect for the engineering side of historic aircraft than their ever will be in the United Kingdom. As someone who is particularly interested in the engineering aspect myself, it is something that I heartily approve of; and sometimes think is lacking in museums in the United Kingdom.

I can definitely recommend the Sinshiem museum – we needed stopover on our way back from Hungary and my son is a fan of the Tu-144, so for once I didn’t need to think up an excuse! 😀

I quite agree, the detailed technical info is still of interest and often lacking in UK museums – I just like a bit of a balance and an possibly biased towards the historical detail. I had heard that in Germany museums used to have a bit of a problem sometimes with the historical background, but really didn’t see this anymore – we also visited the new documentation centres at Nürnberg and the Obersalzberg, where they have really grasped the nettle so to speak and both are excellent.

That said, the Sinsheim museum is by definition technically biased and there is nothing wrong with that – may try for a stopover at Speyer next year!

Getting back to topic, I also agree that the incorporation of the engine mounts on the Napier Sabre, really sets it off, but looking at the condition, they must have found more of the aircraft? and it would be nice to see that – sadly I have never found engine mounts in anywhere near good enough condition to incorporate with an engine as they invariably get very badly mangled as the engine buries itself!

They look very much like the hose ends of the old strup pumps, and would have been made of brass.
certainly not anything i have seen come from a crashsite.

jules

I think you have got something there – Stirrup pump spray nozzles – usually missing on most examples as the hose perishes and they fall off – the clip could be for securing a hose also – Not aircraft, but a possible wartime connection – could the burnt material you have been finding be the remains of an ARP fire practise area or even a decoy site?

Not seen anything like these on any crash site (& I have been to one or two!) could be some sort of compressed air pipe union? as the ridges would suggest to me they needed a good grip inside some kind of flexible hose?

I am pretty sure it was mentioned in passing at one point that they had all bailed out successfully? But I agree the dialogue seemed a bit short on historical detail? But I can appreciate that what happens in editing and is likely to be out of the group’s control.

After a several hours conservation today this is the same artifact

Now that really is a nice find – precision indeed!

Yes quite true about buried spitfires wreckage, well that was the conclusion following advice and is common practice aparently. Its mostly junk though not worthy of display or significance…..

Interesting Gareth – the group I used to be involved with, regulalrly used to consign what was considered “junk” back in the hole before filling in – we have re-dug several of their sites with some success as regards missed / deeper parts, but the re-buried stuff has tended to suffer very badly re corrosion – in fact on our last dig – Defiant T3955 in March – most of it had turned to powder. We actually had the digger driver from the 1983 dig turn up and he said he always thought someone would be back as the group he dug for had chucked so much of it back – he wondered why at the time, after all the effort of digging it out – he was shocked to see what had become of it all.

Also I was “officially” advised NOT to state that anything would be re-buried or otherwise disposed of, when putting foward my project proposals and post dig reports as this was frowned upon in archaeological circles.

Perhaps the goal posts are being moved again?