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05/05/2010 – HUNTING
Businessmen support the purchase of Gripen NG
By: Cinthia Isabel (cinthia@abcdmaior.com.br)
For Correa, companies can take off economically by purchasing the Gripen NG. Photo: Antonio ledes
Director of the Department of Defense Industry Fiesp come out in favor of a plane as one of the most viable options for the country
There is no doubt that the Gripen NG, the Swedish company Saab, is within the concept of technology entrepreneurs who want to Brazil. According to the director of the Department of Defense Indúustria Fiesp (Federation of Industries of São Paulo), José Augusto Correa, companies that already manufacture parts and equipment to the airline industry need a “push” to take off economically and the only solution is the federal government choose to purchase the aircraft Swedish.
Corrêa said that one of the best-designed aircraft between those who dispute the federal government tender for the purchase of 36 supersonic fighters for fleet renewal of the FAB (Brazilian Air Force) is F-18, the American company Boeing. However, the director believes to be impossible to unite the Brazilian strategies with the North American restrictions.
But the Rafale, the French company Dassault, is a plane ready but not yet sold to any country, as indicated by Correa. “The F-18 fighter is already established. The French airplane is the worst of all when it comes to technology transfer. That’s what I call an old-fashioned buying, “he said.
Minister – Within a few days the Defense Ministry will define what the game more feasible for the stab wounds. At a news conference held on the morning of Wednesday (05/05) in Fiesp, Defense Minister Nelson Jobim said it is poised to prepare the explanatory statement to deliver to President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, Next week, the Ministry’s position on the purchase of aircraft. The FAB has already given its assent to the choice of the Gripen NG’s.
After delivery of the document to President Lula, a hearing will be scheduled with the National Defense Council to discuss the option of the Ministry of Defence. After the meeting, the federal government will announce who will close business for the purchase of new fighters. “The Ministry has not made the choice, we are finalizing discussions. There are still some technical details that will be attached to the document within the next few days, “mentioned Jobim.
The defense minister on Wednesday attended the seminar “International Security: Prospects Brasileiras.” The event that occurred in Fiesp, started around 9am, with a lecture series that offered a view on major issues involving Brazil in security affairs and defense.
Region – The ABCD project is already involved in the production of supersonic fighter Swedish Gripen NG Saab. The INBRA Aerospace Inbrafiltro Group, based in Maua, is making the wings and landing gear covers four aircraft for the brand. If the federal government choose the Gripen NG in the bidding for the FAB, San Bernardo will receive an aviation hub. The land for the venture is already defined and should be on the margins of the section of South Ring Road.
http://www.abcdmaior.com.br/noticia_exibir.php?noticia=20587
Do we have any indication of the typical ranges for DAS and EOTS?
Powerful Past, Promising Future Mark 1000th F414 Engine Milestone
May 05, 2010 — LYNN, Mass — The F414 Turbofan Program celebrated delivery of its 1,000th production engine today, capping a decade of providing power to a growing range of applications and demonstrating critical technologies that deliver significant increases in mission capability.
“We look at this milestone as a tribute to the past ten-plus years, as well as a springboard for future technical innovation,” said Tony Mathis, vice president and general manager of the Lynn Turbofan Department. “We are pleased with the track record we have compiled to date, and we look forward to continuing to produce one of the most versatile and reliable powerplants in military aviation history.”
The F414-400 engine (22,000 lb/fn) has achieved an outstanding record of performance to date. With more than 1 million engine flight-hours of experience in Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet and E/A-18G Growler aircraft, the F414 continues to exceed United States Navy (USN) goals for reliability and time on wing. The USN plans to purchase more than 1,200 engines, including spares, to power 594 twin-engine F/A-18 E/F and EA-18G aircraft. Individual F414 high-time production engines have accumulated 3,800 EFH.
In addition to operation with the USN, the F414-400 engine is now operational with the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF). The first five F/A-18E/F Super Hornets arrived in Australia on March 26 with 19 additional aircraft planned for delivery through 2011.
The F414G, a single-engine variant of the F414-GE-400, delivers 20 percent more thrust for the Gripen Next Generation aircraft than previous powerplants. The NG Demonstrator first flew in May 2008 and has completed more than 100 flights, exhibiting excellent operability and performance in both subsonic and supersonic operation.
In anticipation of evolving and more demanding requirements, the F414 family is continuing on an ambitious growth path to increase thrust, improve durability and satisfy environmental considerations. The Enhanced Durability Engine (EDE) is focused primarily on durability improvement and life-cycle cost savings for the USN customer, while the Enhanced Performance Engine (EPE) – with increased thrust – is targeted for potential international customers.
The EDE incorporates an advanced high pressure turbine (HPT) and six-stage high pressure compressor (HPC) that offers a 2-3X hot-section durability gain and reduced fuel consumption, which could equate to a $1-2 billion savings over the life of the USN fleet. The EPE includes EDE improvements plus a new fan for greater airflow, resulting in a 20 percent thrust improvement and greater operational flexibility.
Demonstrator versions of both the EDE and EPE have been successfully run, laying the groundwork for a USN-funded specific fuel consumption (SFC) reduction effort. This initiative, geared toward developing near- and long-term energy strategies, is aimed at showing a 3 percent SFC gain compared with the current F414-GE-400 configuration. An F414-powered Super Hornet operating on a biofuel blend successfully flew in April 2010 — the first tactical USN aircraft to use a biofuel blend.
GE is also working with the USN to develop a retrofittable noise reduction kit for the F414 that features chevron exhaust nozzle technology. These nozzles have serrated edges where each “lobe” penetrates into or out of the primary flow and generates a secondary flow, significantly reducing jet noise. To date, results show a 2-3-decibel noise reduction — or about half the sound energy. The USN has identified funding for a program to further test and mature the technology to prepare it for incorporation in the USN F414 fleet, with work scheduled to continue through 2011.
GE Aviation, an operating unit of GE (NYSE: GE), is a world-leading provider of jet engines, components and integrated systems for commercial and military aircraft. GE Aviation has a global service network to support these offerings.
http://www.geae.com/aboutgeae/presscenter/military/military_20100505.html
Empty weight Rafale F4: 10,000 kg
pilot: 100 kg
Internal fuel 4300 kg
2xMica: 270 kg
4X Meteor: 896kg
total: 15566 kg; with 100% fuel TWR of 1.15; with 50% fuel 1.34.
11:35 GMT, May 5, 2010 Rio de Janiero | SELEX Galileo, a Finmeccanica company and Europe’s leading supplier of sophisticated airborne radar systems has concluded an agreement with ATMOS, a subsidiary of ATECH, to establish them as the Brazilian AESA Radar Centre of Excellence and Airborne Radar Systems House. The agreement is directly in accordance with the Brazilian Defence Strategy’s intention of strengthening Brazil’s national defence industrial capability.
The agreement which follows on from the recent Memorandum of Understanding focuses on the individual target programmes, such as the Raven ES-05 AESA for Gripen Next Generation (NG), and details the training, development, production and support activities to be carried out by ATMOS. In addition to the Raven ES-05 AESA radar for the Saab Gripen NG proposed for the FX-2 programme, the agreement also covers all radars in the SELEX Galileo portfolio including the Seaspray 5000E and 7000E AESA surveillance radars and the Gabbiano T20 mechanically scanned (M-Scan) surveillance radar system.
This range of surveillance radars is being offered to meet a wide range of major Brazilian Air Force requirements including maritime patrol aircraft and helicopter operations.
The collaboration will provide ATMOS with in depth training on radar systems, development activities in the Raven ES-05 AESA, including full participation in the final testing and flight trials, plus the skills necessary to test and fully support the radar in Brazil. In the longer term joint development of advanced radar sub-systems will take place to ensure the future needs of the Força Aérea Brasileira (Brazilian Air Force) are met. This transfer of knowledge and technology also applies to the other SELEX Galileo radars to ensure that the ATMOS capability covers all aspects of airborne radar systems.
“We consider this to be a hugely important agreement” said Alastair Morrison, Senior Vice President of Radar and Advanced Targeting Line of Business in SELEX Galileo. “Brazil is an increasingly important market for us and we understand the need to transfer knowledge and technology to satisfy the Brazilian needs. In ATMOS, we have found a partner with the vision and capability that will allow us to make that a reality. As important, we have found a partner who will work with us to exploit the engineering capability in Brazil and ensure that SELEX Galileo and ATMOS can develop innovative and effective radar systems in the future”.
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/15006/
It seems the Gripen Group has not given up quite yet?
Which Brazilian partner did Thales team up with for tech transfer and development?
Defense Minister Nelson Jobim said today he has to deliver in the coming days to President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva to the report on the definition of the purchase of fighter jets to the Brazilian Air Force (FAB). According to the minister, the delivery of the document should be done when he returned from meeting of Defence Council of South America, in Guayaquil, Mexico. “Probably in the back, I’ll be ready with it and then I give it to the president,” Jobim said after leaving the seminar on the tenth anniversary of the Fiscal Responsibility Law, in Brasilia.
According to the schedule of the Ministry of Defence, Jobim should only return to Brazil on May 17. The minister declined to comment on whether the decision will be favorable to buy French Rafale fighter. “I do not know yet what is my opinion. So I can not speak to maintain an opinion,” Jobim said in response to the question about the maintenance of which would have given preference to the earlier French aircraft.
So he is not stating his preference for France anymore!?
About time he realized that he should not “leak” information from an ongoing process — the amazing thing is that he, as a Defence Minister, did “leak” information in the first place….!
Anyway, this is still very interesting to follow — Why the delay? Have they done a lot of negotiations in secret already, perhaps making it possible to sign an agreement before the next president is elected? Or will they delay the decision and leave the mess for the next president? Or will they against most predictions turn around and not choose Rafale after all?
So what differences will there be between F3 and F4?
Am I using to much common sense here?
No, but too much sarcasm and aggression.
Why did we suddenly get this invasion from Strategypage? First Jackjack (did he get banned in the end, or did he just find it too boring on this forum?) then Bluewings and now jessmo24.
I always preferred keyforum to strategypage; in part because there is less trolling here, and in part because I find the tone and manners of many (but not all!) of the posters at Strategypage to be too aggressive and provocative.
Strange that jessmo24 showed up shortly after Bluewings — my hypothesis is that some of the Strategypage people are missing the Rafale trolls; I suspect they actually enjoy “destroying” and “winning” the arguments against European fanboys in general, and Rafale fanboys in particular, in spite of all the complaining about how the Rafale trolls “ruined” Strategypage. Now that the Rafale trolls have disappeared from Strategypage it seems some of the other Strategypage posters don’t know what to do anymore…
I hope the mods are keeping a close eye on the situation here. The web needs only one Strategypage.
Would UAE then buy the F4? Or would they buy the F3 and codevelop the F4 in parallel? Or something else?
And what would be the codevelopment of the AESA? GaN instead of GaAs?
LONDON and PARIS – The United Arab Emirates and France are discussing a proposed joint effort to develop a more capable, new-generation Dassault Rafale strike fighter, sources in the Arabian Gulf and Europe said.
“The conversation has moved forward from buying the Rafale to how to co-develop the next-generation Rafale,” a defense source in the Arabian Gulf said. The prospective new model would meet UAE requirements and “take the plane to the next level,” the source said.
A co-development with a foreign customer and partner would be a big boost for the twin-engine fighter jet, which is seen in France as a jewel of aeronautical excellence and the crown of the country’s arms-export efforts. Dassault Aviation has entered the Rafale in bidding for contracts in Brazil and India, and has offered it to Kuwait and Libya.
The UAE negotiations center on the systems and engine the upgraded aircraft would carry, the Gulf source said.
The main upgrades are said to be an active electronically scanned array radar, frontal sector optronics and an electronic warfare suite, systems supplied by Thales, and a 9-ton-thrust M88 engine, up-rated from the 7.5-ton engine that powers the French Air Force and Navy Rafales.
Last June, French President Nicolas Sarkozy said the United Arab Emirates was in discussions to buy the Rafale, which Dassault bills as an omnirole fighter. The jets would replace the Mirage 2000-9s bought from France in 1998.
Some 50 French executives were in Abu Dhabi in the week of April 12 as part of the talks, an executive at a rival fighter maker said.
“I can confirm the first,” said a French executive close to the discussions. “We are working flat out on negotiating the contract and ancillary contracts.”
The executive confirmed that the negotiations go beyond just a purchase, and are aimed at agreeing on co-development of an advanced version of the Rafale.
“There are, effectively, discussions between the two governments on how to finance the additional functionality,” the executive said.
The co-development work is expected to take years, he said, adding that whether the work will make the new variant a “next-generation” Rafale is a question of semantics.
The executive said industry is working on the technical definition of the aircraft, while the financial aspects are being negotiated at the government level.
A June date for concluding a deal “is possible, not guaranteed,” he said.
A second French defense executive said of the negotiations, “All the lights are green.”
A Dassault spokesman would not confirm that a joint development effort might be part of the UAE-French discussion about the possible purchase of Rafales.
“Talks are continuing,” he said.
Fighter Swap?
One European executive with knowledge of the deal said Paris has agreed to buy back the Mirage 2000-9s and put them into service with the French Air Force, then put its Mirage 2000-5s on the secondhand market and retire the Mirage 2000N nuclear strike version.
Asked about the buyback of Mirage 2000-9s, the Gulf source said, “It is all linked.”
Such a deal would be expensive, said Etienne de Durand, director of security studies at the Institut Français de Relations Internationales, a Paris think tank.
De Durand said Rafale export sales help fund the development of new capabilities, maintain design skills and keep French industry at the cutting edge of world fighter technology. That is why France is ready to agree to extensive technology transfer to sell the Rafale to Brazil, and why “smart arrangements” are being offered to the United Arab Emirates, he said.
But de Durand said that it often takes years to see whether the arrangements really do make sense. Maintenance of technological capabilities needs to be balanced against funding the operational needs of the armed forces, notably among middle-rank powers such as Britain and France, he said.
If the deal brings Mirage 2000-9s into the French Air Force, it could reduce the money available for buying and upgrading the Rafale, de Durand said.
Privately, French Air Force officials worry about taking in the 2000-9, which will mean operating and supporting a mixed fleet when the Rafale was intended to replace seven different types of aircraft in the Air Force and Navy.
Engine Upgrade
Snecma, which declined to comment on the talks, announced several months ago that it was considering developing a more powerful variant of its M88 engine for UAE Rafales.
In a press pack distributed at the Singapore Air Show in February, the French aircraft engine and equipment maker said, “For the UAE Air Force & Air Defense, which require more power for enhanced combat agility and improved performance in very hot weather, Snecma is considering the development of a more powerful variant of the M88 jet engine.
“Snecma has already demonstrated the feasibility of the 9-ton version of the M88, allowing for the design-related risks to be under control.”
Snecma would adapt the M88, not design a new engine, the company said.
Ordering Advanced Arms
The United Arab Emirates is known for funding state-of-the-art fighter development. In a forerunner to the potential Rafale deal, the Emirates funded the development of the Block 60 variant of the U.S.-designed F-16, adding an active electronically scanned array radar, new engine, electronic warfare and infrared gear, better cockpit avionics and conformal fuel tanks.
The Gulf state also has a history of working with France to develop advanced military equipment.
The Damocles laser targeting pod was co-developed for the UAE Air Force’s Mirage 2000-9 under the name Shehab. The French arms procurement office bought nine Damocles pods in 2008 for its Mirage 2000D and Rafale F3 aircraft.
If the Emirates does buy the Rafale, no immediate orders are expected for missile maker MBDA, as the Gulf nation has a stock of Mica air-to-air missiles and Black Shaheen cruise missiles for its Mirage 2000-9 fleet, which would be compatible with the Rafale.
The Dassault static display at the Paris Air Show last year included a Rafale with three mock-up cruise missiles, demonstrating its long-range strike capabilities.
Later market prospects for MBDA would come with the AASM guided propelled bomb and the Meteor beyond-visual-range missile. The long-range weapon is due to enter service with the French Air Force around the middle of the decade.
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4607739&c=FEA&s=CVS
Good news for Rafale!
All these comparisons with the current generations of fighters to the F-35 — are always fun, but how relevant are they?
The main challenges the F-35 will face will be from SAMs not 4.gen fighters.
And the second biggest challenge will be from other 5. gen fighters.
AFAIK, most “professionals” seem to be quite happy with it’s technical capabilites (although I believe DJCross once said that he would have liked a longer range on internal fuel).
The main critisism in the media recently seems to have been focusing on project management, delays, and how that could affect the price and the fighter gap, not on the capabilities.
The Eurocanards are fantastic fighters, however I think we need to accept that they are not VLO; This reduces survivability when faced with advanced SAMs, and also when meeting 5. gen jets like e.g. the PAK FA or the J-12.
However in most other scenarios they will still do fine, and for many years to come.
It’s a pity Europe did not launch their 4.5 gen fighters a bit earlier and then moved on to a 5. gen — some competition would have been good, both for European companies and for LM. Now it looks like it will become an LM monopoly in the future, in the “Western world”.
It is not all too late of course; Perhaps Japan or S Korea will decide to move forward with a 5. gen. Could be very interesting if that happened…!
Unfortunately it seems that Germany has decided it does not need a 5. gen — German engineers are excellent and it could have been great for us enthusiasts to see what they could have produced, if given the chance by their politicians. Alas not likely to happen. Perhaps France will launch a 5. gen initiative, perhaps together with UAE and/or Brazil?
more on “hot pit refueling”
Thanks to Signatory for posting this:
Look at 2:20.
AFAIK for other a/c doing hot refueling is much more “involved” than what we see in this video…!? Or is it just the Swedes that have some rather lax safety rules…?
Nervous Indian Oil Corp Refuses To “Hot Refuel” Gripen During MMRCA Evaluation Tests
The Gripen team in India is understood to have tried hard to push for the chance to demonstrate the fighter’s “hot refuelling” capability, but was unable to do so after Indian Oil Aviation — the standard supplier of aviation fuel to the Indian Air Force — refused to be part of such an exercise. Hot refueling is a process by which a fighter is refuelled (in between sorties) while its engines are still on, thereby cutting down refuelling time by half and turn-around time significantly — a capacity highly desirable in a combat situation, which basically puts aside the need for a pilot to park the aircraft, power down and exit the cockpit for refuelling to begin.
According to sources, the Gripen team was very keen to demonstrate the hot refuelling capability — even the IAF had no problems witnessing the demonstration even though it wasn’t required as part of the tests — but the offer was shot down by Indian Oil, which said it had never conducted a hot refueling operation before, and wasn’t sure it was equipped to take the risk, despite assurances from Saab that it was standard practice with the Gripen. Hot refueling, it must be said, does have its share of risks.
The incident has, however, had its effect. The IAF is now keen to witness a hot refueling demonstration, and will look favourably upon such a capability in its final evaluation of the MMRCA competition. Also, it has requested Indian Oil Aviation to set about getting itself certified for hot refueling ops for the future. IOC will need to look abroad for any sort of certification. Hot refueling trucks and crews in the US, for example, receive special training and certification from an agency in the USAF command structure.
http://livefist.blogspot.com/2010/04/nervous-indian-oil-corp-refuses-to-hot.html
I am surprised to learn they they are not already doing “hot refuelling” in India?
Edit: I know that hot refueling (or “hot pit”) is being done with Gripen, Rafale, F-15 and F-16, and the Typhoon. But I am not sure about the SH and Mig-35, can they also do “hot pit refuelling”?
Microtecnica has been awarded a contract worth in excess of €20m (£17m) to design and supply a cooling system for Saab’s next-generation Gripen NG aircraft.
Microtecnica will develop a Secondary Environmental Control System (SECS) in order to provide additional cooling capacity to support the requirements of the aircraft’s new avionics system.
Gripen NG will have an increased range and payload capability, complete with new avionics, new engine, plus enhanced communication and electronic warfare capability.
Designed and manufactured by Microtecnica, the advanced cooling control system will use energy-saving technology that exploits the bleed air originating from the aircraft engine.
Using computer-controlled valves, the system will optimise its energy efficiency by accurately matching the extracted bleed flow from the engine to the actual system requirements.
Microtecnica is currently at the design phase of the project, which involves qualification and requirement testing.
http://www.theengineer.co.uk/news/advanced-cooling-system-for-saab-aircraft/1002048.article
Microtecnica is mainly an Italian company, AFAIK, but also with R&D in the UK, here are some of their customers:
Alenia Aermacchi, EADS (France, Germany & Spain), Alenia
Aeronautica, Bombardier (DeHavilland, Learjet), British Aerospace, Cessna, Dassault, Embraer, Eurofighter, IPTN, Panavia, Piaggio, Saab, ATR, TAI, Pilatus Aircraft, Messier-Bugatti, Hamilton Sundstrand