C’mon guys you are freaky now. Get back on your feet or roll away sniff another… . It has nothing to do with being US or Fr, it has to be LEAN and EFFICIENT. In other words, reaching you commitments and provide a system that match you verbal defiance. Some of guys here think that by yelling harder and louder they are more competent, knowledgeable and even more Fr (yes, what it has to do on a UK based forum!?) than the others. You are simply boring us all. EoA.

And by the way, I did my share. A good one.

Why are you so afraid of coming out of the closet? Don’t be shy! Just admit it. It may seem intimidating right now however after you have come out of the closet and admitted your nationality you will feel liberated! Free!

Just Do It.

PM me if you still feel nervous about talking about your nationality. I have been there, I know how hard it can be and I am sure I can support and offer counsel. It may seem difficult now but in reality it is not that hard.

Very light. It’s happy hour here. In any case, T-VIP isn’t American (I don’t think) so the whole America-stronk thing doesn’t make sense.

I am not so sure — I suspect he is French-Canadian. He speaks French, and I strongly doubt he is from France.

Last time I checked Canada was part of America.

FBW, ligthen up, it’s Friday evening in Europe!

N10, joke appreciated 🙂

I think they will retain the T1s for quite some time, however sooner or later they will have to replace. The question is: when do the T1s become too expensive to maintain?

How big is the difference between the T1s and the current Typhoon? Can they run into problems with spares etc? Or is this not an issue? For how long wil the others retain their T1?

Also, you cannot really compare operating costs with lease costs…. Have you ever looked at leasing a car as compared to owning one?

I like this part.

I wonder who is that Bogdan* to say this. Seems to be unknown on this forum…

Ok, let’s capitalize it a bit (I think I earned a free drama voucher the other day)

“You might be able to afford more Super Hornets, but they’re going to die in the high-end fight, and I don’t know how economical that is.”*

Source:
Link posted above

*http://www.af.mil/AboutUs/Biographies/Display/tabid/225/Article/108398/lieutenant-general-christopher-c-bogdan.aspx

Why the yelling? and why not also quote this part:

But that’s not to say that there’s not a right mix out there. Because we’re not only going to fight the high-end fight, we’re going to fight mid-fights and low-end fights too.”

and this:

They need fifth-generation airplanes and they need some fourth-generation airplanes, and they need them soon. So what I think you’re going to see the Navy do is buy as many F-35Cs as they can afford, and maybe supplement that with as many other things as they can afford. But they just need airplanes,” he said.

http://www.defensenews.com/articles/f-35-program-office-concludes-affordability-study

So even Bogdan realize that the USN will acquire both F-35C and the SH, the question is how the mix is going to be.

He could even imagine the decommissioning of the 15 Eurofighters, if a more cost-effective solution for the airspace monitoring could be found. With this announcement, Defense Minister Hanspeter Doskozil (SP) has recently been struck by the National Council, where the second Eurofighter committee is being formed.

From today on, a separate “Special Commission” will examine whether there are “economic and military alternatives to the Eurofighter system”. Under the leadership of the commander of the air forces, Karl Gruber, 27 experts also make comparisons with foreign systems. Until 27 June, a final report and thus facts will be created, Michael Bauer, spokesman for the Ministry of Defense and even a member of the SoKo, announced in conversation with the OOne news.

Already, in view of the enormous operating costs (see box) and the clear task of being “almost compelling to find alternatives”, Bauers forecast. In the course of the 2002 type selection, the Swedish Saab Gripen was in any case classified as much cheaper for purchase and operation.

Delivered between 2007 and 2009, the 15 Eurofighters have so far caused the Bundesheer some 500 million euros in operating and maintenance costs. Currently, 80 million euros are spent annually. For a remaining lifetime of 20 years, a further 1.6 billion euros should be incurred (not secured by value). The purchase price in 2007 was 1.67 billion euros.

The fact that the Austrian jets are used Eurofighter of Tranche 1, according to BH spokesman Michael Bauer, is partly costly. Spare parts, that is, a motor, gearbox, hardware, can be taken over from the production of the modern tranche 2, but they have to be partly reprocessed. Wear parts (seals, bolts, screws …) one can use one-to-one.

Among the costs listed in the purchase contract “not in clarity” are those for “engine modifications” in the army. These have been necessary with every Eurofighter since 2016 and until 2018, and costs € 11.7 million annually.

The service contract with Airbus (47.2 million euros) deviated by far the largest share of the operating costs (2016 in total 71 million euros). In addition to engine renewals, these included spare parts (€ 5 million), fuel (€ 4.6 million) and other items (€ 2.5 million).

Google translated from: http://www.nachrichten.at/nachrichten/politik/innenpolitik/27-Heeresexperten-sollen-die-Gruende-liefern-um-die-Eurofighter-einzumotten;art385,2518816

I wonder how much Hungary and the Czech Republic are paying to operate their Gripens…

Austria could become a highly likely customer for Gripen E when their Typhoons become too expensive to maintain (IMHO).

Or maybe they want a really operational aircraft?

By the time Malaysia will introduce new a/c, F-35 will be fully operational.