Should be a nice place once it’s properly developed.
By the way, the C.205 is a full size replica… possibly the one that was at Farnborough this year?
airart
The Swedish aircraft is not a J 17 but a J 22, of F8. The code letter (G in this case) was red, outlined in white, and was repeated on the engine cowling.
Would be interesting to find out what this J 22 was doing at RAF Sylt.
RJ Caruana
Here’s the crest from the John Player & Son cards, directly from the original album… the latter cost ‘One Penny’ ! From my private archives.
Richard J. Caruana
You might want some nose close-ups as well. Not much on the tail except rudder and elevator control access panel markings, I believe.
Send a PM with an e.mail address where I can send some close-up views of a museum machine.
RJC
Four Tornadoes from No.111 Squadron arrived yesterday afternoon at Malta for a flypast that will be performed during the Remembrance Ceremony tomorrow, 9 November. The ceremony will, as usual, take place on the War Memorial in Floriana that commemorates the dead from the two World Wars. It is planned that the four Tornadoes will also fly over the Military Cemetery at Bighi where most of the RAF pilots killed during the defence of Malta during WWII are buried.
Will post some pics if I manage to get any decent shots.
RJC
Scanning it now. Send me an e.mail address where to send it at:
[email]rjcaviationart@gmail.com[/email]
Richard J. Caruana
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This is the best I can do with the nose section. Even a glance will show that the cowling panels are very different. Note how curved the top cowling is on the Hendon Battle, and how flat is the bottom bath compared to the real thing. The top curve should start further forward as indicated with the red line. Again, like the rudder, the nose is closer to that of the prototype which was faired to match the spinner, rather than that of the production version.
P.S. the pic on the right has been flipped on purpose, for comparison with the that of the Hendon Battle.
RJC
Hello JDK,
See below: Prototype rudder at left, rudder as fitted when the Battle was at Hendon at centre, and production rudder frame at right. Note that the production rudder had a higher trim tab, count three frames from the bottom and not two. Cowling panels had the wrong shape. I’ll try to find comparative views.
RJC
Hope they changed the rudder and cowling. Both were terribly wrong when she was at Hendon.
The rudder structure and design that it had then was that of the prototype, quite different from the production version.
RJC
Many thanks, most appreciated.
RJC
Shouldn’t be a problem. Have done technical translations before.
PM me, or post it here if it’s not too long.
RJC
Just had confirmation from my friends in Italy that the C.205 at Farnborough is in fact a replica.
It is one of two built in fibreglass, together with a C.202, from the original factory drawings at a cost of 40,000 Euro each.
Quite a good price if you want one in your front garden!!
No problem with the Italian Air Force displaying fascist markings. Aircraft at Vigna di Valle museum are full of them, some carrying the original fascist decals for the small fuselage and rudder markings. This is because the present Italian Air Force (Aeronautica Militare Italiana – AMI) is considered as being a direct discendent of the wartime Regia Aeronautica.
There’s no reluctance to even display the markings of the Aviazione Nazionale Italiana, that fought from the Nazi-occupied northern Italy post 8 September 1943. In fact the G.55 (rebuilt from a G-59) bears the markings of this air force.
The markings shown on this Macchi C.205 (replica or not!) are those of the period of the Regia Aeronautica Co-Belligerante, September 1943 up to the institution of the present AMI on 1 March 1947.
Lovely aeroplane! But it’s not an original.
This C.205 bears serial MM.9546 and is preserved at the Italian Air Force Museum of Vigna di Valle (Rome). This was one of a number of ex-C.202s transformed into C.205s by Macchi for export to Egypt. In fact it originally was a C.202 Serie X built by Breda and it’s modification into C.205 was completed on 3 December 1949. It never went to Egypt as this particular batch of C.205s fell victim to an Israeli raid on the Aermacchi factory, in an effort to dissuade the company from delivering them… which seems to have worked!
Two other C.205s exist in Italy, another ex-C.202 (MM.91818) similarly converted by Macchi in March 1949 and intended for Egypt. It was restored to flying condition by Aermacchi in 1980 (registered I-MCVE) until it was severely damaged in an accident. It was later restored to static condition and is now at the National Museum of Science and Technology, Milan.
The only original C.205 that survives is MM.92166 which, however, is fitted with a fixed tailwheel and tail cone from a C.202. Built in June 1943 it was taken on charge by the Regia Aeronautica the following month. Served with the 378a Squadriglia (51º Stormo) in Sardegna (marked 378-2) and on 22 July it shot down a P-40 and shared another P-40 victory. It later shot down a B-26 Maurader. Following Italy’s capitulation it served with the Co-Belligerent Air Force and later with the newly-formed Aeronautica Militare Italiana (Italian Air Force). Also formed part of the planned delivery to Egypt and spent many years at the Milan museum. It was acquired by Aermacchi towards the end of the 1980s and is presently preserved at Venegono Superiore (Varese).