There was a reason, why the twin-engine F-18 was choosen over the single-engine Mirage 2000.
Sure, there where many reasons, then. But the times have changed. I remeber when in every abbreviation the A stud for Advanced. Later it was for Affordable. Even the US Navy will have to do with a new single engine fighter!
I remember this aircraft. Lockheed came out with all this hype about how it wasn’t ignoring the unmanned aircraft market. It crashes a few months later and then not a word from Lockheed after that. I suspect that this program suffered the same fate as it’s predecessor, Darkstar.
If you look at the Lockheed-Boeing proposal for a NGLRS (see pic bellow) the polcat might have served as something like a proof of concept craft.
Bill Sweetman, in his blog (see here) suspects a “black demonstrator in 2009”, so why not a white one in 2006, allready?
Switzerland needs the cheapest European solution – this means undoubtedly the Grippen.
But we have to be aware that also for Grippen there are several possibilities:
· the cheapest (alt least to start with): buy or lease existing A/B from Sweden
· buy or lease new NATO-compatible C/D
· buy (new) NG
The Top-Secret Warplanes of Area 51
see an article from Bill Sweetman in PopSci here:
http://www.popsci.com/popsci/aviationspace/95e16f096bd8d010vgnvcm1000004eecbccdrcrd.html
… and yes, with images!
Great news…but…:diablo:
If it’s unmanned…who cares?
me, e.g
While I certainly appreciate the engineering and capabilities, but without a pilot a UAV is just a reuseable missile. Not as interesting, fun or “sexy” as a piloted aircraft.
In other words…is it “an aeroplane”?
Yes it is! The difference between a missile and an aeroplane is the aeroplane produces aerodynamic lift by means of having wings…
The brain behind the machine does not necessarily have to be inside the machine!
There have been rumours about a japanes stealth, called FI-X, before.
see pics
>another project called Piranha …. does anyone know this project ???
Wasn’t this the indigenous Swiss program?
Regards, Glenn.
Sorry for the late answer (5 years back…)
Indeed there was a project called Piranha in Switzerland. But it never left the drawingboard.
For further information see
Here’s my “B-3” argument:
http://temperedinsanity.blogspot.com/2007/05/fire-from-space.html
Having read your argument about how to proceed with B-3 with great interest, I wonder why you did not mention X-33 / Venture Star, which comes closer to a real SSTO aerospace plane than anything else.
What has been decided yet by the USAF (subsonic, manned…) is more a B-2+ than B-3!:rolleyes:
Stealth does not imply radar signature alone. How is a Mach 6+ jet going to hide what will be a massive IR signature?
I do not mean it will be able to hide its IR signature (completely), but that the frictional heating will make a thermal management system – to cool the airframe – mandatory. This would reduce IR emission at least for the airframe.
The exhaust plume is another issue, don’t know if injecting cesium will do the job sufficiently.
Why don’t they go for a “real” B-52 replacement: subsonic long range and large payload for targets with limited defence. They have F-35 and F-22 for the rest. Bomber can be great launch platform for cruise missiles.
Another supersonic stealthy wonder machine is likely to fail in congress and senat, when the true bill is presented.
I would propose something like a sonic cruiser concept as bomber:
- fast subsonic (M0.9 to M0.98)
- maybe some stealth features
- low-level ingress possibility at lower speeds (maybe M0.7)
- normal take-off/landing (10000ft runway)
- long range strike (>5000nm)
- possibility to zoom-climb to 60.000ft for winged bomb delivery
Actually I see that number 1, 3 and 5 would call for a variable swep. Maybe it is better to scale down speeds set in 1 and 3 to a limit that a conventional wing can make it.
Is this not more or less what the (today partially mothballed, once B-52 successors) B-1 can do today already?
Drag rudders suck. They cannot be made stealthy because they are perpetually open for yaw control.
Think I saw something like this on B-2 ?
…. Also, very high speed and stealth are mutually exclusive. …
AURORA is back – at last! 😎
As it never existed – officially – many names have been given to it, and none of them might be the correct one. Names really mean nothing. But the few hard numbers in the article, like speed of Mach 6, altitudes of about 100,000 feet and transcontinental range all point in the direction where Aurora was called to be.
These figures also seem to be quite close to what Falcon should be able to, perhaps even a bite less ambitious (M6 instead of M10+).
Contrary to SOC, I do not think that high speed and stealth are mutually exclusive, just a very big challenge to find the compromise between the two. But the even bigger problem to solve could be propulsion.
I personally think FALCON is something like the “white world AURORA”
Also, I’d just like to mention that those of you who are thinking in terms of a development of the Tu-160 or Tu-144 are likely to be way off the mark. If SOC is right (and he often is :)), then there is more chance that a new bomber* will be a development of the T-60S or T-54… SOC, got any artists impressions of these – I know that there was one of the T-60S around a while ago…
* Assuming of course that there will be a new bomber 🙂
may I help out with some pics? On the left: T-60S, on the right T-54
They are from:
It’s a well known CG (ComputerGrafic) just fan-art
Hello,
May he rest in peace.
And may the WSO recover well.I haven’t seen the crash site and I’m a bit confused.
On the one hand, there is talk of flying low in the valley.
On the other hand, there is talk of snow and difficult rescue conditions. Throughout this winter, I have seen weather reports that said that the skiers had to go really high to find some snow.
Is there more snow in Switserland at this moment than I was aware of? Or did they crash quite high up the mountains?
Is the location about at the level of Lauterbrunnen, Wengen, or even higher than Wengen?Cheers, Transall.
Hello Transall
In the first pic you see the crash site, and the second one (the section of the map), shows that it is at about 3500 m. above see level in a very steep wall of rocks. Lauterbunnen is at 800, Mürren at 1600m. So the pilot must have tried to climb out of the valley. The WSO was hanging in his parachute up in the rocks, this made the rescue action so difficult.