I must admit that I’m not 100% convinced that it’s from a Br.831, unless from a related prototype, even the one shown in the picture seems to have straighter cockpit framing around the windscreens area and possibly a solid panel in the centre cockpit roof postion.
The cockpit shown is completely clear and seems to have a distinctive steady curve throughout its profile, the annoying thing is that it seems quite familiar to me!
Person in your first film in above link is a member here Jeepman…. I don’t think it would be right to give out Merlinpetes name though….. so I won’t :p
Who looks like the chap in your posted film that you refer too?!
Personally I don’t see much wrong here, just people enjoying themselves with engines, jealous? – moi?!
Looking at the cockpit framework I would say it’s is an Alouette III, but mated to a IIs rear structure, is there such a thing as an Alouette II.V?!
Alouette III is my final answer!
Isnt that what is written on the front???
I’m reading Alouette II on the front aswel!
Lama?
It was, that was partly the reason it didn’t see proper service.
The Martin B-57A was a licenced built E.E. Canberra bomber, which itself started out with a tandem two seat design cockpit (all be it with the bowl canopy that it retained in production bomber and PR variants), however due to radar bombing kit not being available it became a three seater with the pilot under the bowl canopy and the nav/bomb aimer sat side by side behind him.
The B-57 essentialy was a low level interdictor (before the RAF thought of it) and only required one nav who was retained in the aft stb’d position.
The B-57B introduced the excellent tandem seat layout under the large clear canopy, something that E.E. and the RAF should have done while drawing up the Canberra B.(I).8.
Shame that there aren’t more Martin designs about really, the Marlin is my favourite flying boat.
Love the early B-57s with side-by-side cockpit. Hope they repaint the black one soon.
B-57As don’t have a side by side cockpit, they’re front/rear seated with the pilot under the bowl and nav behind him to stb’d. I believe there are eight As surviving, which isn’t bad for a variant that didn’t see front-line service.
Nice pics and thanks for sharing, however apart from the 57As and 404 it doesn’t seem to have a particularly Martin flavour about the collection?
Agree with that Ross, I think the AHB say as such themselves aswel, they are ultimately the keeper of original records of the service, primarily for the services’ use and shouldn’t be regarded as first contact.
However my point (and I suspect Wellingtons’, Andys’) is that there does seem to have been changes in the response to requests in information just recently.
Looks a bit like this Breguet Br.891 Mars, http://www.airwar.ru/enc/craft/br891.html
However there does seem to be quite a bit of confusion about the Br.890 Mars/Mercure line on the web, so I can’t be more exact as to what I think it may be.
Looks like a Breguet Br891 Mars cockpit to me, but with some small windows added under the main glazing.
Excellent progress and result there Rich, hopefully Norman can feel happy about this cockpit again.
Unfortunately there was only one in the static park with non actually flying as there had been a crash or some technical problem which had grounded the entire fleet.
The other thing I do recall was the size of the beefburgers…. Man, was it huge!! The Americans never seem to do ‘small’ do they… Yum yum!!
Ah, wondered why there wasn’t an SR-71 flying at the show, agree about the burgers, they were the two reasons why I enjoyed the Air Fetes, 1991 was my last.
Annecdotes, I remember being one of four Cornish ‘spotters’ going up to the ‘Hall for arrivals day, by the end of the day we were extremely tired and sunburnt and after spending some time in a nearby pub (believe smallest in UK or Suffolk?) we jumped in the car to find a place to park up and get our heads down. At some un godly hour we were woken up by very bright lights, shouting, and barking, and on clearing our eyes were confronted by the sight of armed guards with dogs, we couldn’t understand them (apart from the fact we shouldn’t be where we were!) and they couldn’t understand the Cornish dialect coming back at them.
It turned out that we had decided to camp down some small lane adjacent to the SR-71 pens!
Never did get to see an SR-71 fly, let alone perform the torching of ’86.
My last picture of an SR-71 at a Mildenhall Air Fete was taken in May 1989, in the static park. Seem to remember one at that years RIAT Fairford show as well.
Seems better value than a Supermarine Swift ( although admittedlly nothing like as significant in historical terms) with maybe a chance of getting her in the air again.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Percival-Sea-Prince-T1-/330679495459?pt=UK_CPV_Aviation_SM&hash=item4cfe08ab23
Wow, I had heard not long ago from the operator that it was being made airworthy this season, seems a change of plan has occured.
No Andy, and I must admit I haven’t pressed them for a reason – yet.
I’m not sure it’s a case of jobs worths as such, as everyone I have spoken to have been very helpful, it seems to me that a new regulation of law has crept in recently (though that is only my impression) which seems to umprella official service records.
I don’t know if this has come about because of one case or what.
One reply I had was that I could only view a percentage of records, and even then that would be at the discretion of the assistant as to what I could view, and then as to what I could copy.
Interstingly I haven’t heard the same thing from TNA, but possibly because I’ve not asked for the same info.
I agree entirely with your comments about this effecting future publications.