I have AP 1565 L Pilots Notes dated August 1949 for the ‘SPITFIRE 16’.
Clearly a transitional period.
Ah, that explains it, just post ’48, is that when the 16 came into use?
Here is a copy of a drawing from the BBMF archive showing some late Spitfire marks in Roman numerals
It doesn’t seem to cover the 22 & 24, or Seafire 45, 46, & 47 which could be defined as the late series production marks.
This is quite a useful link to show designation style change, http://www.flight-manuals-on-cd.com/Spitfire.html
I don’t doubt for one minute though that some APs continued to use Roman for a while after the change in ’48, especially with types already well known in that style and where manuals have continuation and cross referencing to earlier marks.
The above link shows another anomalie with the Mk.XVI being shown as 16.
I still stick with production Spits generally being known in Roman up to the XIX and Arabic from 21 on.
It was – the Defiant Mk.II had a more powerful Merlin, as did the Hurricane Mk.II and so forth – it was always going to be carrying more than the equivalent single seater.
Did the Defiant ever get more than the 1,280 hp Merlin XX though?
That wasn’t alot (especially when you consider the drag and weight) when you see what the Spitfire and Hurricane was being improved with.
I wondered what that was!
I’m still going through the collection now, some amazing imgaes of stuff I’ve never seen before.
T’other James will know better, but I was under the impression that the lack of available Merlins of higher power to all but the priority types, and the emergence of the Beaufighter and Mosquito as night fighters to counter the bomber threat saw to its being pushed back.
The turret was extra weight and drag which could be used in a decent fixed cannon armament.
Dont forget that copywrite and distribution/use rights are different. Which ever I still think it’s wrong, I wouldn’t have the balls to download say the lovely Mustang picture above and try and sell it for my own gain.
I’ve noticed the same treatment to British sources which is copywrite protected.
Maybe I’m a bit too moralistic, but something to bear in mind when things get tight!
Thanks for that LL, nice to know the tradition is being kept up by the unit!
Fantastic pictures, is that a Blomm & Voss 222 in the photo ‘Southampton waterways’?
If so what became of it?
Why did the Defiant perform so badly in WW2 if it was (apparently) at least comparable with the Spitfire?
It wasn’t though,
Spitfire II 360 mph, 6,409 Ib loaded weight, Merlin XII 1,175hp
Defiant I 304 mph, 8,318Ib loaded weight, Merlin II 1,030hp
They are just the figures which don’t take in to account the pure dog fighters’ (Spitfire) manoeuverability and performance, against a turret armed two seat anti bomber interceptor.
Depends on mood at the time, but if sat in a darkened roon, rocking in my chair and tamping out my pipe, illuminated only by the flickering red glow of my old aircraft instruments, then the Greg Lake I Believe In Father Christmas song does it for me, probably helped by the classic riff used in the chorus.
At a party you really can’t beat Wizards’ I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday.
Depends on mood at the time, but if sat in a darkened roon, rocking in my chair and tamping out my pipe, illuminated only by the flickering red glow of my old aircraft instruments, then the Greg Lake I Believe In Father Christmas song does it for me, probably helped by the classic riff used in the chorus.
At a party you really can’t beat Wizards’ I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday.
Another use for glass like that is on airfields, armouries and some engine test houses having thick viewing panels.
Moan, moan, moan… :rolleyes:
I think ZR is maybe being mischievous in his ‘tosh’ comment!
I’ve still never seen this film.
Using them as an educational or discussionsource on wiki/forums etc with credit is one thing, printing them and selling them, and not admitting the original source, for your own gain is something else entirely.
probably copyright expired and in public domain, so doubt anything would happen to them
Still no reason to save them to the HD, print them off, and flog them off to the ususpecting on EBay.
Imagine doing that with RAFM and IWM images!
That Mustang shot is absolutely superb, looks like it was taken yesterday on the best kit