You will have to explain the dustbin bit to me Tony?!
By my quick maths, the VC-10 are the 2nd oldest major aircraft to have served with RAF (after Canberras) front-line, but I’m guessing when it comes to hours and miles flown that they must exceed all others by a fair margin.
I wonder what the total hours on XR808 of ZA147 must be by now?
Wonder if anyone at Brunty has noted the hours of the scrapped aircraft there.
I’m a little more out my comfort zone there (i.e. Need to check) but I think the later ones (AEW) were overall Dark Sea Grey and that might have been the colour on white/grey ones (Early ones were of course MSG over white!!)
Well I have to ‘fess up here,
I am wrong and Dave is right about the grey used on Shackletons.
AP.119A-0601-1E (Jun ’72) which was the official painters and finishers guide states,
‘Maritime Reconnaissance-piston engined:
Gloss dark sea grey upper and lower surfaces
BS381C/638
Except top of fuselage which is to be gloss white.
On NEAF aircraft only, this white finish is also to be applied over wing fuel tanks.
Serials and ID letters in post office red with white edging.’
Obviously that covers the MR.2/3 Shacks, but as the codes and serials are presented in the same way it is fairly safe to assume the AEW.2s were finished in the same gloss dark sea grey.
I’m still surprised by this as the grey looks a slightly different tint/hue to me than that used in the camoflage scheme of the fighters/bombers of the era. Maybe its’s the gloss content, HSA’s paint type, or the fact that there is just so much more undisrupted grey on show which has thrown me?
Thanks to TonyT for the AP and DaveF86 for raising the issue with me.
That explains things!
Hope no one’s trying to flog it on ebay as their own… I think it comes from this source
http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2179070073/
This seems to be a growing trend, well known, official, & personal photographs being sold on EBay by anyone with a high quality printer
RAF VC-10 Transports
During the late 1970s it was realised that the VC-10 would make a good dedicated Air to Air Refuelling platform for the RAF, specification K.294 was issued against Air Staff Requirement 406 and so a major project was put in hand at BAC Filton to convert various redundant civil VC-10s into tankers.
First off was five ex BOAC and Gulf Air V.1101 VC-10 ‘standards’ which became V.1112 VC-10 K.2s, these were the short variant, which looked similar to the RAF C.1 and were uprated with the Conway 43s.
ZA141 in a unique grey/green camo scheme made the types flight on 22 June 1982, K.2s were delivered to 101 Sqn from July1983, being based on the oldest VC-10 variant they were all scrapped at St Athan by 2004.
At the same time four of the stretched variant V.1154 Super VC-10s were rebuilt to become V.1164 VC-10 K.3s. ZA148 made the first flight of this version on 4 Juy 1984, with deliveries to 101 squadron starting from February in the flowing year, the last of these was in delivered to the unit1987.
All of these conversions were dedicated three point tankers, with Mk.32 HDUs on the wings and one Mk.17 centre line hose drum unit, along with five cabin mounted 3,182 ltr fuel tanks, reciever refuelling probes, aswel as monitoring cameras and screens, and the RAF stipulated APUs.
V.1112 VC-10 K.2s
ZA140 A, ex Gulf Air/BOAC V.1101 A40-VL/G-ARVL
ZA141 B, ex Gulf Air/BOAC V.1101 A40-VG/G-ARVG
ZA142 C, ex Gulf Air/BOAC V.1101 A40-VI/G-ARVI
ZA143 D, ex Gulf Air/BOAC V.1101 A40-VK/G-ARVK
ZA144 E, ex Gulf Air/BOAC V.1101 A40-VC /G-ARVC (ff 21 Feb 63)
All K.2s have been scrapped.
V.1164 VC-10 K.3
ZA147 F, ex East African Airways V.1154 Super 5H-MMT
ZA148 G, ex East African Airways V.1154 Super 5Y-ADA
ZA149 H, ex East African Airways V.1154 Super 5X-UUVJ
ZA150 J, ex East African Airways V.1154 Super 5H-MOG
All of the K.3s are still in active use with 101 Squadron.
A further programme (concurrent to the C.1K conversions) was to convert five V.1151 Super VC-10s into V.1170 VC-10 K.4s, this being carried out during the early 1990s by BAE Filton, they were completed to the same standard as the K.3 but without the internal cabin fuel tankage. ZD242, the first K.4 conversion, first flew on 30 July 1993 and deliveries to 101 sqn commenced in April of the following year.
V.1170 VC-10 K.4
ZD230 K, ex British Airways/BOAC V.1151 G-ASGA (First Super VC-10, ff 7 May 64)
ZD235 L, ex British Airways/BOAC V.1151 G-ASGG
ZD240 M, ex British Airways/BOAC V.1151 G-ASGL
ZD241 N, ex British Airways/BOAC V.1151 G-ASGM
ZD242 P, ex British Airways/BOAC V.1151 G-ASGP
Only K.4 ZD241 N remains in active service, with 101 Squadron.
All the tanker variants have seen widespread service in various places around the world and have been used in the air above Iraq and Afghanistan.
With the RAF VC-10s we have the last direct link to the great names of the British aero industry of Vickers and Sir George Edwards.
RAF VC-10 Transports
It might be worth briefly outlining what an RAF VC-10 is.
The RAF originally ordered the type V.1106 from Vickers to fulfil specification C.239 to the Air Staff Target 378 as a long-range strategic transport, known in service as the VC-10 C.1.
It is the highest performance VC-10, essentially comprising of the VC-10 V.1101 ‘Standard’ short fuselage, with the V.1102/03 greater area wings, the tail fin fuel tankage of the V.1154 Super and the side loading freight door of the V.1103 (for Laker/BUA).
It was powered by the Super’s RR Co.43 Conways of 22,500Ib thrust each, which when fitted to the noticeably lower weight C.1 airframe gave rise to a sprightly combination. Unique features were some of the avionics, and the tail mounted APU.
Flights of M.84 were routine, M.92 were not that unusual, and the limiting mach of .94 is remarkable when you consider that test-pilots in jet fighter prototypes were struggling with controllability at these speeds only ten years previously.
The first VC-10 C.1 flew 26 November 1965, and delivery for trials and training began over the summer 1966, the type entered full service with 10 Squadron at Fairford in December of that year. Foutreen aircraft were delivered and all would rather appropriately gain the names of VC winners.
VC-10 V.1106 C.1
XR806 ‘George Thompson VC’
XR807 ‘Donald Garland VC’
XR808 ‘Kenneth Campbell VC’
XR809 ‘Hugh Malcolm VC’
XR810 ‘David Lord VC’
XV101 ‘Lanoe Hawker VC’
XV102 ‘Guy Gibson VC’
XV103 ‘Edward Mannock VC’
XV104 ‘James McCuddon VC’
XV105 ‘Albert Ball VC’
XV106 ‘Thomas Mottershead VC’
XV107 ‘James Nicolson VC’
XV108 ‘William Rhodes-Moorhouse VC’
XV109 ‘Arthur Scarf VC’
RAF VC-10s would see sterling service throughout the world, bringing home injured servicemen to Brize Norton, returning hostages, diplomatic and VIP runs, aswel as the day to day performance of trooping and air bridge flights. They took part in the end of the empire withdrawals of the late 1960s early 1970s, the Falklands as air bridge to Ascension, and over Iraq as transports and tankers.
From early 1990 The C.1 fleet was progressively upgraded by Flight Refuelling Ltd to perform the dual role of transport and two point air to air refuelling with the fitment of two wing mounted Mk.32 HDU pods, and a nose mounted reciever refuelling probe, thus becoming V.1180 VC-10 C.1Ks, the first being re-delivered to the RAF in early 1992.
VC-10 V.1180 C.1K
XR806 ‘George Thompson VC’
XR807 Q ‘Thomas Gray VC’
XR808 R ‘Kenneth Campbell VC’
XR810 ‘David Lord VC’
XV101 S ‘Lanoe Hawker VC’
XV102 T ‘Guy Gibson VC’
XV103 ‘Edward Mannock VC’
XV104 U ‘James McCuddon VC’
XV105 V ‘Albert Ball VC’
XV106 W ‘Thomas Mottershead VC’
XV107 X ‘James Nicolson VC’
XV108 Y ‘William Rhodes-Moorhouse VC’
XV109 Z ‘Arthur Scarf VC’
10 Squdron disbanded in October 2005 and all remaining C.1Ks joined the K fleet with 101 Sqn.
At this moment XR808 R, XV101 S, ‘104 U, ‘106 W, and 108 Y are still in service with 101 Squadron.
Perhaps they wanted to beef up the a/c for the warmer climates they operated in?
I think it was a case of the aircraft being engineered and powered for the colonial airlines use at hot-high and shorter rougher strips (high tail, rear high engines, thrust reversers etc) in the first place, this being cited as the reason why it was expensive and uncompetitive with the likes of the 707 etc on standard routes and airports.
The various civil VC-10 operators were,
BOAC / British Airways
British United Airways / British Caledonian
East African Airways (who used the wing mounted spare engine pod that Tony mentions earlier)
Ghana Airways
Air Malawi
Middle East Airways
Nigeria Airways
Gulf Air
United Arab Emirates
Sierra Leone (BUA Charter)
Omani Royal Flight
I would agree with that Rob, certainly seems right pattern and size.
Congratulations!!! A baby it´s the best present in the world!!
A fully fitted out Harrier cockpit comes close though!
Congratulations on your news Chris.
Nice pics Rob, due to Saints being restricted by Cardiff Airports’ airspace we never get to see fly throughs etc with the gear up, the VC-10 looks even cleaner without the AAR pods.
XV102 T and ‘107 X are probably the two aircraft that I have seen the least of, in fact these are the only two I have of ‘102

VC-10 C.1K XV102 T 05 Nov 09 by jamtey71, on Flickr

VC-10 C.1K XV102 T summer 07 by jamtey71, on Flickr
Have to agree with Tonys’ comments above, you just can’t tire of seeing the VC-10.
Certainly not, having a row of extendable fingers on the wings was the less vulgar and British way of doing things!
I will have to spend some time uploading some ‘wot’ images, so open house again…
There’s something about Canberra tails that give em away to me:D
Give me a moment and I will have a go.
Martin B-57?
Good find, link here, http://www.flickr.com/photos/recoveringscot/sets/72157625816357919/detail/
Apologies for delay gents, open house again…