My understanding is that WWII torpedoes did have the propellers turning in flight and before they entered the water, is this incorrect then?
Surely there are more people about with the physical ability to buy, pick up, and keep a cockpit than a complete aircraft?
If I had the funds I could buy the cockpit tomorrow, I couldn’t entertain buying a complete airframe at all, even if I had the cash – I would think that would go for many other people, isn’t that what the rise in cockpit ownership is based on?
As I said earlier the complete T.7 seemed to have languished for ages, and was reasonably priced.
I like to see complete aircraft and cockpits preserved, so just trying to see this through practical eyes.
They had a detuner pipe let rip here, insulation and perforated metal blasted quite a way up!
Geeky question Tony, is the detuner at Brize the same design as the one above?
Don’t forget that listing does not automatically prevent demolition, it depends on the listing status and the local authorities desires for the space that the building occupies – sadly.
And I applaud people like yourself for doing so, probably doing this work for very little reward, but I don’t think we can criticise one seller for separating an aircraft, especially if we aren’t in a position to buy it whole – that was my point in the first place, the cockpit will be a more attractive proposition to more people, ie increasing the sellers chances of sale.
Just my two penneth
I supplied second hand flexello wheels (350kg load each) that cost £12
I was offered similar capacity for £50 each:eek:
But how would this seller have the choice of separating a cockpit of a ‘less desirable’ version?
This is their airframe, and they obviously deemed it better to break the airframe and sell the cockpit, you never know the other bits may have even gone to help another Hunter.
One thing that troubles me with this EBay thread is that we like to sit on judgement on other peoples decisions and practices.
So (dear boy) after all that, why haven’t you purchased some of the complete examples that have appeared for sale before now? I seem to remember one of the Kemble T.7s languishing for sale for ages.
Believe me I’m all for restoring lost causes, and there have been some fantastic examples here (JonH s Vampire) but the Hunter isn’t by any measure scarce, In fact it could be argued that all the mass types that were in various museums in the recent past became scarcer because there were too many about.
BTW I don’t give a flying fig if an aircraft is indoors or out, I was responding to DBs point about being indoors.
Subject for another thread maybe.
My thoughts aswel XF940.
There have been various whole (but tatty!) Hunters for sale with seemingly poor uptake.
Baz, maybe you should have spoke to the seller a few weeks ago, he may have gone a bit further with the saw to ensure indoors delivery and display!:D
You’re changing the goal posts somewhat, as this was a fairly tatty outside stored airframe then it doesn’t come under those.
Sorry but without my rosiest of glasses on there are plenty of Hunters about, both indoors and in flying condition – essentially the best condition Hunters there are.
Is there a reasonably sized UK museum that needs an extra Hunter indoors?
C’mon, I like Hunters but that is just wrong David, see Demobbed here, http://www.demobbed.org.uk/aircraft.php?type=600.
There’s at least 15 F.1/2s and about 30 T.7/8s and 10 GA.11s (not bad for a sub series) in British preservation, and even without crunching numbers they seem to be in every museum that I have visited (in fact is there a resonable size museum without one?) – no other British post-war type is preserved complete in such high numbers either in the UK or overseas.
It must one of the most numerous vintage jet types flying aswel, not a bad thing at all, but I’m sure one tatty airframe being turned into a cockpit section is not really going to make a difference.
For recent photos of the project look at http://silksheenphotography.co.uk/ and klick on the AE436 gallery page, more images from the archives will be added soon.
Fantastic work and progress there HP, very sobering account of the tragic transit flight aswel.
Sorry to ask a general question here, but why was the Hampden of such limited use, lack of weapons capacity, design problems?
It looks sleek and powerful enough for a twin bomber of the period.
Sorry nothing against the cockpit guys but why butcher a complete aircraft if you don’t have to to make a cockpit section ??
Surely a cockpit section is a far easier thing to sell and would appeal to far more people, and will possibly make the same money as a complete airframe, the rest of the airframe might also earn a little bit in scrap aswel.
Complete examples are displayed to saturation point in museums throughout the land and there are many airworthy examples to see.
The Hunter in particular is a nice sized cockpit for a trailer and larger garage.
That Canberra is a lovely example, but agree is a bit of a swine to keep unless you are geared up for it, just wish I had the cash space, and vehicle for it!
Thanks Rob, thats cleared up something for me.
BTW if it’s deemed that the last 3 posts are unrelated I will delete my posts.
Ok, I shall defer to your knowledge, I thought S.38/39 was the Shorts type and part no. identifyer, SA.1/2 being the SBAC type no.
Certainly feasible as Gloster seemed to have used their own type no’s on the Meteor and then the SBAC no for the Javelin.