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  • in reply to: Photos from Ark Royal (F4, Sea Vixen etc) #1025880
    pagen01
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    Occasional visit by USN COD aircraft were even more daunting, not much clearance on the wingspan of a Greyhound.

    How much clearance would you say the C-2 Greyhound had?

    Re the COD, it was an S2, IIRC, and here are a couple of shots of it on a wet Ark flight deck:

    I didn’t know the S-2 was ever used as a COD plane. I guess I’m used to seeing the C-2 so it didn’t cross my mind.

    Just to be an utter pedant for a moment, the aircraft pictured, and serving in the COD role at the time, is a C-1 Trader, derivative of the S-2 Tracker. The larger C-2 Greyhound being a derivative of the E-2 Hawkeye of course.
    These are the first pictures I’ve seen of one operating of a British carrier

    Fantastic images, I’ve always enjoyed the pictures of John Eacott (does he still post here?) so glad to see this thread resurface!:)

    in reply to: Photos from Ark Royal (F4, Sea Vixen etc) #1033755
    pagen01
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    Occasional visit by USN COD aircraft were even more daunting, not much clearance on the wingspan of a Greyhound.

    How much clearance would you say the C-2 Greyhound had?

    Re the COD, it was an S2, IIRC, and here are a couple of shots of it on a wet Ark flight deck:

    I didn’t know the S-2 was ever used as a COD plane. I guess I’m used to seeing the C-2 so it didn’t cross my mind.

    Just to be an utter pedant for a moment, the aircraft pictured, and serving in the COD role at the time, is a C-1 Trader, derivative of the S-2 Tracker. The larger C-2 Greyhound being a derivative of the E-2 Hawkeye of course.
    These are the first pictures I’ve seen of one operating of a British carrier

    Fantastic images, I’ve always enjoyed the pictures of John Eacott (does he still post here?) so glad to see this thread resurface!:)

    in reply to: Barracuda rebuild article in Daily Mail #1037302
    pagen01
    Participant

    Absolutely, I believe he’s planning to produce a similar work on the current Martlet conservation/restoration.

    in reply to: Barracuda rebuild article in Daily Mail #1037317
    pagen01
    Participant

    You going along Rob?

    in reply to: Barracuda rebuild article in Daily Mail #1037457
    pagen01
    Participant

    Apologies my mistake, it means I won’t be able to go this year either.

    in reply to: Barracuda rebuild article in Daily Mail #1037492
    pagen01
    Participant

    Don’t forget that the FAAM Reserve collection is open to the public next Thursday, might be a chance to see this fantastic project in the metal.

    Always enjoy this event as Dave Morris and the gang really make it a special day for visitors.
    Nice to see the collection of Barra bits coming together.

    in reply to: RAF St Eval question #1039073
    pagen01
    Participant

    I won’t be posting anymore info Nick, and will withdraw my previous scans, I have better things to do with my time to try and present information here and then for it to knocked.

    in reply to: RAF St Eval question #1039100
    pagen01
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    I realy shouldn’t even try to answer that post BB, but I am incensed to be honest.
    You want to get all quotey do you,

    I did not deny that there was a hanger per-se, as for a start there is clearly something resembling one in the picture so where did I deny that, but it was just that according to my sources, it was a covered cannon butts and not a extra over blister hanger separated from the cannon butts as you labelled it.

    Say something enough and we all believe it eh, you did actually deny it,

    For those that have a good knowledge of the former RAF St Eval… was there ever a blister hangar on the North side of the airfield (outside of the peri-track), just to the West of the Church?

    In a word no, but there were at least two blisters shown during the war with one located due east of the church and one located east north east of the church.

    Nick, you’re bang on mate, there was an Extra Over Blister Hangar (greater span) on that spot, building no 120,

    It is imediately to the east of the Cannon Test Butt but doesn’t appear to be linked to it, just the short road way running south to one of the spectacle dispersals which is visible in the current images.

    Pagen, that is not what my information details.

    I can absolutely assure you Bomberboy that the St Eval RSP indicates a Double Extra Over Blister Hangar (longer span and double length), blg no.120, on the precise location of Nicks and my link.
    It is not on the Cannon Butts track or hardstanding, but immediately east of it, it is to the north of the peri track and just west of the church, as Nick has deduced in his first post.

    So you did deny, and try to argue the point.

    The point of all this, is that not one of them show what you have described, so with all this info, why would I, or anyone else for that matter, just accept a strangers word, i’m sure you would do exactly the same given the same scenario.
    That being said, you then went onto state that it was shown as building 120 blah blah on the AM plans that you have and edited the airfield layout to show this accordingly.
    I believe this is what you must describe as “You even refused to believe, in the face of evidence,”
    What evidence?
    A scan of the actual AM plan showing this area might have helped right then?

    Firstly I can’t scan the AM plans as they are too big, and secondly I have produced a load of computor drawings from it to allow easier dissemination on the net, I will now, in the light of you last post, refrain from posting these up here.

    Do you really think I would take time to make up information and building numbers, simply to agree with what the OP has said?
    Why would I do that when in my first post I actually doubted him, until I looked at the evidence that I have here.

    I have provided some the thread with sketches from the original AM plans, which did take time and effort to produce, and so truthaly I am quite peeved that you can completely disregard any information that I have provided here.
    As for a strangers word, I hope Nick doesn’t consider me too much of a stranger, and I’m certainly not to Dr Stragelove, so just you.
    Whenever you read a book, mag article, or forum post, you are putting your trust in strangers for much of the time, how you treat that information is up to you.

    Now let me assure you, if I know little or nothing about something in particular or don’t have the relevant reference material to hand, I post nothing.

    Again, please don’t assure me, I really don’t need it, you quite clearly have posted without evidence.
    I have got the evidence of this building right here in front of me, and I have presented the info on the thread in a clear manner to back up both the particular points that Nick asks about.
    Just because various publications don’t mention this particular point it doesn’t mean it didn’t exist, it may not be worthy of inclusion the first place.
    I too have various publications on St Eval, but it doesn’t mean that I treat them as gospal on every single point about the airfield in general, which is a large subject.

    Oh and one last thing, my dad was stationed there as flying crew in 1944 and I don’t ever recall him mentioning what you described.

    In what respect would he have recalled anything that I have said here, and are are trying to suggest that with all that I have presented in this thread that I am lying?

    I have spent a good deal of my time and effort providing evidence and drawings from primary sources to support two different viewpoints expressed while keeping an open mind on the subject.
    And this is the result, I really wonder why I bother when someone such as yourself comes trolling along and in a series of words completely disregards other evidence and points of view.
    And to top it all off you are making accusations about me when you haven’t actually provided any evidence yourself, where are your scans etc?! That is what I meant by ‘guff’.

    The other day I answered a thread about the benefits of this forum, your posts are what I consider the negatives.

    in reply to: Air to air with a Spitfire over Kent #495694
    pagen01
    Participant

    I presume you are referring to a colour cast? If so, what a rude manner in which to put your criticism across, one that could well stop someone posting up in future – and when we’re talking about air-to-air shots of a Spitfire I severley hope that is not the case!

    I tend to deteste a green colour cast, and often go too much towards the magenta in an effort to escape them – thats just my personal preference – and to me this set looks very good, maybe only benifiting from a slight move towards the magenta.

    How on earth did you come to that bizarre conclusion?!.:confused:
    I take it to mean that Waco is green with envy, as in the well know saying, to be be able to fly alongside and take pictures of the Spitfire.
    Neither can I see any green cast in the pictures, so you should adjust your monitor!

    in reply to: Very Heavy Bombers in the ETO. #1039706
    pagen01
    Participant

    The appearance was supposedly to allow 8th Air Force Technical and Tactical staff to evalulate the machine, but in reality it was an attempt to mislead German Intelligence into believing that the B-29 was to be based in the UK.

    I think the ‘supposedly’ bears more in reality than the ‘attempt’ part of that statement
    I also think we are getting hung up on the B-29 and this non operational vsit to the UK.

    Ken have you considered that the Vickers ‘Type C’ six engined, tailess canard design was one of the very heavy bombers in consideration? Seem to think that was mooted c.’42-3?

    in reply to: Air to air with a Spitfire over Kent #495704
    pagen01
    Participant

    Thanks for the flap actuator info, something else learnt about the Spitfire!

    in reply to: General Discussion #287749
    pagen01
    Participant

    Must be something at your end, mate.

    Could be, I’m wondering if my ISP just disagrees with the forum host, it is awful loading time, and often times out, but only with this forum it seems.
    Smart phone works ok, but wasn’t sure it that used a different system – like magic or something

    in reply to: Forum go slow? #1872119
    pagen01
    Participant

    Must be something at your end, mate.

    Could be, I’m wondering if my ISP just disagrees with the forum host, it is awful loading time, and often times out, but only with this forum it seems.
    Smart phone works ok, but wasn’t sure it that used a different system – like magic or something

    in reply to: RAF St Eval question #1039839
    pagen01
    Participant

    Erm pardon me, you spent several posts and clipped quotes talking absolute guff and trying to prove what others said wrong.
    You even refused to believe, in the face of evidence, that there was even a blister hangar in the location being asked about!

    in reply to: Prototype to Production difficulties. #1040090
    pagen01
    Participant

    I understand that, but I don’t see how that in anyway takes away from the Spitfires’ construction and progress to production success?

    Personally speaking, out of the two I have always preffered the Hurricane anyway, but the two and half years from getting a clean looking prototype, using a then very advanced construction technique, to an in service fighting machine is surely remarkable?
    Any ‘lateness’ can really be layed at the Air Ministrys’ door for not taking up the idea sooner with production fighters.
    It says something that the bombers were almost the other way around, Blenheim, Hampden, Whitley were all using stressed skin monocoques, with the Wellington being the odd one out.

    I know that fabric covering had been praised for ease of repair etc, but I do wonder it was more to do with reluctance to embrace the new rather than looking out for the repair side of things.

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