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September 29, 2011 at 9:08 am in reply to: Airworthy Lockheed 14 Super Electra sought #1064279

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No such luck I’m afraid, but expect a Beech 18 in S.Wales sometime in October:rolleyes:

PS thank you all for the help and responses, it’s made interesting reading and raised my awareness of the types.

September 29, 2011 at 8:26 am in reply to: UK Museum admission prices, visitor numbers and VAT #1064293

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Have the FAAM always charged entry ? We went there about eight years ago, and I don’t recall having to pay.

Good point, I believe that FAAM have always charged an entry fee, however they do have an outstanding system that if you pay to go in once, any return visits within the year are free – that is a great idea.
Should be noted that parking is free aswel, which the RAFM museums are not anymore.

September 28, 2011 at 9:04 pm in reply to: Binbrook 1941/1968 photos #1064735

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Nice work Hunter!:)

September 28, 2011 at 8:21 pm in reply to: I've lost a Bell 47…. #1064838

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NEAM’s Bell 47 is most likely a Sioux (G model), and NOT my missing parafin palm tree….

I’ve got some alloy scaffolding, one of those old perspex bowl telephone kiosk covers, and a Villiers 2 stroke – could you make a D model from that?

September 28, 2011 at 8:02 pm in reply to: Binbrook 1941/1968 photos #1064863

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Fantastic shots, from the Vulcans doing circuits to the WWII Wellingtons, have to agree with Rob about the village scene.

September 28, 2011 at 5:03 pm in reply to: UK Museum admission prices, visitor numbers and VAT #1065179

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Re the shop side of things I absolutely agree with Bruce and others, I have bought stuff at Newark, Cosford, & FAAM Museum shop (and others) that I could possibly have got cheaper online, you can’t beat that enthused feeling and then being presented by something related to buy. For example I brought a Valiant DVD at Cosford, a model Canberra at Newark after sitting in their example – I probably would never have bought them otherwise.
I think anything aviation will sell.

Re charges, as a visitor I am hard up and it does make a difference if it is free to get in, especially as I have to travel a good distance to get to amuseum, unfortunately fuel prices are having an effect, something I was talking about with the FAAM curator. I might wake up and decide to spend the day at a museum, FAAM and RAFM Cosford of equidistant to me, but Cosford is free and that is where I visit more often.
The majors can obviously charge, but I think a smaller/newer museum may struggle with visitor numbers if they do. Strangely I will happily donate money more easily than pay to go in – unsure why really.

September 28, 2011 at 9:46 am in reply to: 60 years of the de Havilland 110 Sea Vixen #1065705

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Brilliant stuff, thanks for posting Lindoug, I remember in another thread you were asking details of that event, did you find these marvelous pictures as a result of that?

The pics show well the ugly longitudinal boom stiffeners that had to be added to WG236, alongside the extra fin extensions added under the rear booms, both of these problems were remedied in the factory on WG240.

September 28, 2011 at 9:38 am in reply to: Vulcan (whats this bit do) question #1065707

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Oh dear, I wonder if I remember this right. Wasn’t a Vulcan used in the development programme for the Concorde engines?

You remember right Richard, Vulcan B.1 XA903 tested the Olympus 593 for Concorde, it was underslung in the weapons bay area.

Nice pic of it here, http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_8DAL7gPYBiM/TAhj3tNNhFI/AAAAAAAAAXs/1JbsBfIE0J4/s1600/Vulcan+test.jpg

September 28, 2011 at 9:33 am in reply to: Vulcan (whats this bit do) question #1065709

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With the proximity of those fuel dump pipes it could have done a spectacular ‘torch‘ – like the Aussies with their F-111s.

Uh oh, this is how threads end up getting confused,

I said fuel vent pipes (not dump), as far as I’m aware (& I could be wrong) the Vulcan didn’t have fuel dump until the tankers – certainly there is no mention of fuel dump in the Vulcan B.2 course notes about fuel systems or emergencies.

By saying ‘fuel vent pipes’ – you do mean engine breathers, don’t you? I would find it doubtful that fuel vents would be allowed so close to a combustion area. I know that on the aircraft that I work on we are not allowed to have any fuel leaks/stains/weeps in areas near sources of combustion. My guess is that the fuel venting gets carried on out toward the wing tips, as on most aircraft I’ve been involved with.

Jackd you might be right with engine breathers, however I have only seen then annotated as ‘fuel vent pipes’.
These pipes do not terminate anywhere near a combustion area, and take any sort of vented vapour well down stream from the engine area (and associated inlets etc in nacelle undersides), there is only hot burnt fuel coming out of the jet pipes, no ignition source.
As I understand it these vent pipes serve the wing tank groups when they might over pressure, and another vent high in the fuselage serves the centre tanks.
However I’m no techie and this is just from my understanding.

September 28, 2011 at 8:35 am in reply to: On the BEEB earlier #1065839

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Yep absolutely bang on Pondskater, the S.25 Sandringham is a civil conversion of the S.25 Sunderland of course, and the S.45 Solent a different design, if similar looking.
I’m being pedantic as these lovely old ‘boats always seem to get lumped together but deserve recognition in their own right, bit like lumping Lancaster, Lancastrian, and Tudor together.

September 28, 2011 at 8:22 am in reply to: 60 years of the de Havilland 110 Sea Vixen #1065851

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Early days at Hatfield with the USAF’s 92nd FIS lending a hand.

Fantastic pic Lindoug, first I’ve seen of this event, which is I assume when the 110 was put in mock combat conditions with the F-86s, this is from another post of mine,

4 April ’52, WG236 piloted by John Derry with flight test observer Tony Richards carried out dogfights with two F-86s
29 April, high mach number trials with F-86s, Derry & Richards
30 April, USAF familirization flights with Col Richard Johnson, General Albert Boyd, and Col Fred Ascani piloting, Richards as observer and Derry in chase F-86.

September 27, 2011 at 9:29 pm in reply to: On the BEEB earlier #1066180

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The Short Solent III G-AKNP “City of Cardiff” featured in Indiana Jones – Raiders Of The Last Ark (not Last Crusade), but the flying shots were a model. A classic case of using a 1940s aircraft in a 1930s movie.
However a Solent isn’t a Sunderland and is drifting away from the main subject.

September 27, 2011 at 9:15 pm in reply to: Vulcan (whats this bit do) question #1066200

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No worries can see the pic now!
It does look like the jet pipe fairings have been removed or left off.

September 27, 2011 at 9:11 pm in reply to: On the BEEB earlier #1066330

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Excellent little piece I thought, fantastic colour footage of early silver Sunderlands.
Surely Dan was right in saying that there are only four Sunderlands in existence?

The One Show seems to be doing quite a few aviation related pieces now and I think this is a great way of keeping the subject in the publics mind, many more people will watch 5 mins of this on a magazine programme than an hour long documentary competing with Corrie or something.

September 27, 2011 at 9:04 pm in reply to: 60 years of the de Havilland 110 Sea Vixen #1066338

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The structure of all Sea Vixens retained the gun bays.

The latter points about deletion of guns/cannons from XF828 and retaining gun bays in all Sea Vixens are incorrect.

I can’t be certain as I’m away from my sources & APs, but I thought that the production machines did retain the gun bay mounting structure (possibly wrong term?) complete with the distinct four cutouts under the main cabin floor, the high pressure air bottles and airbrake were fitted in the rear of that space, and the rocket cells in the front.

I’ve just checked the APs (to check my sanity I think!) and there is a major transverse structure with the four cutouts for the cannon barrels, it is actually called ‘Beam, gun assemby – 10.20 FS 11645A’. It sits under the floor immediately aft of the nose gear bay, and the airbrake hinge brakets are mounted to it. Looking at the HP bottle bay (above the airbrake) it really does look like the structure could contain four cannon, but is adapted for bottles. It is present on both FAW.1 & 2s.
However it was bad wording on my part and I will correct it.

Mind you it would not be unlike DH to do the minimum possible work to make a production aircraft from a prototype…

I think that is probably correct. I think some parts of the SV fuselage structure are not that far removed from the 110 to be honest.

Thanks for the extra pictures, Buzzer when was the ‘828 picture taken?
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