Unfortunately not, be nice to see that complete the line-up – if the Shack was staying!
The plan was/is for the front section to transform from a restoration space to a display space as the ‘need’ for large airframe restoration declines….
The timeframe is the issue…. restoring the Victor/Shack are both long term, capital intensive projects. That in itself is not a show stopper, but having invested all of that there is then no place (either then or in the future) where this investment can be located undercover and protected.
I’m probably going to sound simple here, but just to see if I’m reading this right,
The hangar that the Shack and the Victor projects currently reside in is to be turned into a display hangar, for this purpose the restoration projects will have to vacate to make space for display aircraft.
Therefore it will have the space to display the Shackleton (and Victor) after restoration, unless there is a plan to bring something else to the collection?
From my own personal way of doing things,
I clean the panels and lettering areas up with soapy water, but you have to judge how sound the lettering paint is, I use everything from cloth through tooth brushes and scrubbing hard with nylon nail brushes.
I then do as I do with models, using a fine brush and apply enamal satin white paint but diluted a bit with white spirits, if the paint goes over the edges it is fairly easy to wipe with a cloth lightly dowsed in spirits to re establish clean edges.
I’m just about to do a panel plaque that way over the weekend.
However having said that some radio boxes etc have the lettering backlit from within the box itself, I only clean the letters up in this case without painting over them.
This guy on the Cockpitfest forum is brilliant, http://cockpitfest.21.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=276 http://cockpitfest.21.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=461
I was hoping someone would raise this subject, and glad to hear that it launched well.
What a sad day for manned spaceflight and a great programme, can’t believe that it was juts over thirty years ago that as a spotty 10 yo in shorts I was made (without protest I should add!) to watch the first launch at school!
God bless all that have travelled on the STSs’ Columbia, Challenger, Discovery, Atlantis, and Endeavour, and god rest the souls lost in the effort to expand the knowledge of human kind.
I’ve stood in the throat of the Farnborough 24 foot wind tunnel, an incredible thing to witness with its massive mahogany prop/fan.
Also looked at two other tunnels there, possibly the 11 1/2ft and 4ft, aswel as the ‘new’ 5 metre DERA tunnel, all of them are amazing bits of engineering and mechanics!
Wind the windows down, brilliant!:D
It is interesting that Bell persisted with the car door layout, Hawker tried it and then changed to bubble canopies, there was one P-63D built with a bubble canopy but that seems like the only one.
there seems to be all sorts of weird and wonderful Kingcobra versions, my favourites being the L-39 with swept wings and the two modified aircraft with ‘V’ tails, not to mention the bonkers RP-63 that was designed to actually be hit by rounds of plastic from an attacking training aircraft and be able to indicate the actual hits using a lights!
Is there a reason why the Kingcobra didn’t really catch on in US/UK service, reading between the lines I’m guessing because the Mustang was already well established?
Great to see this project in the UK.
Good points raised there AdlerTag, to the question I can’t think of anything more significant to take the Shackletons’ place and I can think of other less significant types on the site in general such as the CASA. For intsance the Comet airliner (which as a type and resto in this case I really like) is listed indoors in Air Space with the Lancaster, Sunderland etc. I’m not by any means suggesting it should be moved out, but if the argument is for a coherent display theme it dosen’t stand up.
John made this interesting comment though,
The space is needed for other things apparently. It was never supposed to be an indefinite storage facility.
Time to go back to hiding.
I think he’s hiding at Legends for the W/E:)
We really need to establish exactly why it is going, lack of funds to restore, no room to exhibit, or not seen as fitting in anymore or important enough, perhaps all three reasons!
Or should Duxford increase its income in order to pay for it sooner?
Would an extra contribution to keep it there be in order or should that be assumed in the funding it already receives?.
I also like these points by Michelf, could a museum legitimately ask for donations to help a specific project, that way me with my big mouth can actually contribute towards keeping the type and restoring it in place, perhaps outside organisations such as a Shackleton group would feel that they could contribute through their membership?
Perhaps even start a funding interest group for specific types?
Those Ruskies certainly know how to give a good blow job…
Back to Goblins…:D
Only just noticed that – blasphemy!:eek: 😀
Interesting to hear from people whos families worked in these grand old places, aeronut it sounds like your grandfather had a very important job at what I find to be Chaddertons’ most interesting period.
Pattern work itself I find fascinating.
Oh no, dead Gannets!:eek: Looks to be about three Skyraider AEWs in there aswel, are the Gannets at Connells?
Hawker Siddeley
Easy Tiger & Aeronut It’s Hawker Siddeley !;)
Hawker Siddeley seems to be only associated these days with the major rationalisation of the British aero industry in the early 1960s, but as Aeronut touches on the company was formed in 1935 when Hawker took over the companies of Armstrong Siddeley, and Armstrong Whitworth. A.V.Roe & Co and the Gloster Aircraft Company also came under the unbrella at about the same time.
Thanks JD, It is one of just two ‘Fs built so quite a rare bird, looks even better with its ventral extension, especially when viewed at this angle..
Pic Chuck Gardner, Warbird Registry
Is the silver Kingcobra pictured earlier an ex test airframe or similar? It has a different fin and rudder shape, looks taller and more pointed than standard.
I’ve always thought that the P-63 looks quite a swept up aircraft of it’s day, despite the car door arrangement (which I do like), the rear fuselage looks especially slendor.
So now we have these chaps with their trailer mounted RR Merlins & Griffons etc….. How long before some silly sod shows up with an Avon on a trailer?
Already being done, I think in the videos section of the forum is a couple of guys running a Spey.
I know there have been Vipers used for this aswel.
These any good to you, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RAF-Aircraft-Spitfire-Chipmunk-Instrument-panel-mwww.tradingstandards.gov.ukounts-/140567669393?pt=UK_CPV_Aviation_SM&has
They look the same as Vixen panel mounts, seem to start with the same part no aswel.