Concur with above superb pictures, and your treatments work especially well with that fantastic Lightning!
The RNHF Sea Fury was smoky…but lovely!
Nice pics Tony, the SF was noticeably smokey IMO just after it landed from its display at Yeovilton and before it left for Legends.
Outstanding!
I’d suggest you are thinking about in in the wrong way – using terms like ‘fail’ for instance! 🙂
Possibly, but the aircraft was flown in in good and complete condition and to be kept airworthy, it was then left outside apparently unattended for 30ish years, and now they don’t want to restore it or house it, I can only read that as a fail.
I will bang off another email just to try and see what the real thinking is behind the move.
I can see that there have been success in passing airframes around to independant museums, but a Shackleton is a very different beast to transport, restore, and display indoors for a long time.
I managed to have a quick natter yesterday with David Morris at FAAM, and when you hear about the reality of running these places it makes for sobering listening.
I’d suggest you are thinking about in in the wrong way – using terms like ‘fail’ for instance! 🙂
Possibly, but the aircraft was flown in in good and complete condition and to be kept airworthy, it was then left outside apparently unattended for 30ish years, and now they don’t want to restore it or house it, I can only read that as a fail.
I will bang off another email just to try and see what the real thinking is behind the move.
I can see that there have been success in passing airframes around to independant museums, but a Shackleton is a very different beast to transport, restore, and display indoors for a long time.
I managed to have a quick natter yesterday with David Morris at FAAM, and when you hear about the reality of running these places it makes for sobering listening.
Michelf does make a good point, but I still can’t see how a smaller private outfit will be successful where the mighty IWM considers that it will fail?
Also where are the safeguards that whichever organisation takes on the Shack won’t have a change of heart, priority, or personnel a few years down the line which will see the aircraft put out in the cold again?
At the moment it is uniquely intact (never been sectioned for transport), and is very complete including the turret and cannon as mentioned in another thread. even to break it down to transport to some whereelse would seem to sully the airframe a bit.
Let’s put it this way I have failed to be convinced about the arguments in favour of moving it on.
Personally I would rather it was stored and guaranteed survival and eventual restoration indoors at IWM, there is after all no rush to display it.
Finding out that XF708 is actually a ‘benchmark’ airframe only makes the situation that its stays in a national collection more urgent in my eyes.
Michelf does make a good point, but I still can’t see how a smaller private outfit will be successful where the mighty IWM considers that it will fail?
Also where are the safeguards that whichever organisation takes on the Shack won’t have a change of heart, priority, or personnel a few years down the line which will see the aircraft put out in the cold again?
At the moment it is uniquely intact (never been sectioned for transport), and is very complete including the turret and cannon as mentioned in another thread. even to break it down to transport to some whereelse would seem to sully the airframe a bit.
Let’s put it this way I have failed to be convinced about the arguments in favour of moving it on.
Personally I would rather it was stored and guaranteed survival and eventual restoration indoors at IWM, there is after all no rush to display it.
Finding out that XF708 is actually a ‘benchmark’ airframe only makes the situation that its stays in a national collection more urgent in my eyes.
Apparently a first and only, it was a genuinely fantastic moment and also reflects well on the show organisers and the aircraft operators that they could come up with and arrange this at the last minute. I’m sure some people had tears in their eyes!
Will post some pics in a new thread when I get time Rob.
Apparently a first and only, it was a genuinely fantastic moment and also reflects well on the show organisers and the aircraft operators that they could come up with and arrange this at the last minute. I’m sure some people had tears in their eyes!
Will post some pics in a new thread when I get time Rob.
Would it not clean with some Isopropyl alochol and cotton buds in the letters?
Forgot about that and I have used it for cleaning up smaller items with indented white lettering and it does work a charm, however it won’t reinstate damaged lettering.
Would it not clean with some Isopropyl alochol and cotton buds in the letters?
Forgot about that and I have used it for cleaning up smaller items with indented white lettering and it does work a charm, however it won’t reinstate damaged lettering.
Went to Yeovilton Air Day yesterday which as an event interests me far more than Legends, probably only time that I will see the Vulcan and Sea Vixen in formation aswel!
Skintyness plays its part, as I can only afford to go to to one show a year.
Also I have to go into work later today (Sunday opening unique for St Athan) as Team Viper Hunters are due in later.
Went to Yeovilton Air Day yesterday which as an event interests me far more than Legends, probably only time that I will see the Vulcan and Sea Vixen in formation aswel!
Skintyness plays its part, as I can only afford to go to to one show a year.
Also I have to go into work later today (Sunday opening unique for St Athan) as Team Viper Hunters are due in later.
The Swift cockpit is a simulator/proceedures trainer and I believe the general consensus is that it seems uncertain if it was based on a real airframe.
I remember looking quite thoroughly over it and thinking that that it wasn’t – but could be wrong.
That lightning looks god awful, what is the fascination with these gleaming polished bare metal schemes ?. Horrible on P-51’s and horrible on the P-38:(
Because they look really nice, the P-38L looks like it represents the XP & YP-38s to me.
I don’t like to see polished silver on every example of a type flying, but it does really show off an aircraft’s lines as designed, and boy does the Lightning have some nice lines!
DCW you must be one of the few people here that doesn’t need to go to the air show!