The Hermes and Hastings share the same wing though.
According to a three view drawing of the Hastings that I have the trailing edge tapers from the same point as the leading edge, ie from the inboard intermediate wing join, just outboard of the inner engines.
The main difference between Halifax & Hastings planforms seems to be the reduction in trailing edge and leading edge taper on the intermediate section, ie between the engines, which seems to suggest that this is how the extra overall span is made up.
Hopefully these basic illustrations (based on the later Halifax wing) show what I mean, if a tapered wing is cut and extended the bit in between (the intermediate section) will have reduced tapered leading and trailing edges.


All absolutely superb, Sea Vixen pics are my favourite mainly because of my love for the type.
the B&W shot showing the three types on the ground stands out really nicely.
Can I ask why the F stops made your pictures soft at the edges, lack of depth of field?
Presume you were at the AV8 restaurant then? A lovely spot!:cool:
Lovely homemade cake there aswel!
Much prefer Kemble to Cotswold Airport though.
I can see where this is going so I’ll depart now, particularly as I have been shocked by a particular response from one member.
I’m with you on this one. I don’t know why these things can’t be discussed in a calm way with resorting to hyperbole and keyboard heroism.
So why come back and post that!?
I never get ‘I’m not agreeing with this and not posting anymore’, well just don’t do it!
I don’t know anything about this particular case, there could be all sorts behind it really, but generally speaking this is a very difficult circumstance. If you’re threatened near midnight by four intruders, you are probably half asleep and dealing with poor light conditions, and trying to judge if they have weapons or if you have an equal chance of dealing with them, add to that the heat of the situation and the knowledge that the police are slow to respond and might not show much interest anyway – not a good recipe at all, and probably lead to significant action from the householder.
I must admit that I agree with the comment above that once you illegally go through the door of someone elses house, your rights immediately change.
I can see where this is going so I’ll depart now, particularly as I have been shocked by a particular response from one member.
I’m with you on this one. I don’t know why these things can’t be discussed in a calm way with resorting to hyperbole and keyboard heroism.
So why come back and post that!?
I never get ‘I’m not agreeing with this and not posting anymore’, well just don’t do it!
I don’t know anything about this particular case, there could be all sorts behind it really, but generally speaking this is a very difficult circumstance. If you’re threatened near midnight by four intruders, you are probably half asleep and dealing with poor light conditions, and trying to judge if they have weapons or if you have an equal chance of dealing with them, add to that the heat of the situation and the knowledge that the police are slow to respond and might not show much interest anyway – not a good recipe at all, and probably lead to significant action from the householder.
I must admit that I agree with the comment above that once you illegally go through the door of someone elses house, your rights immediately change.
I prefer a light Bryza (Sea Breeze)!

For somewhere like Florida, I am looking at £600+ alone for a return airfare and thats just for one of us…
That’s alright, just leave the missus at home… oh no, that kind of defeats the object…:p
For somewhere like Florida, I am looking at £600+ alone for a return airfare and thats just for one of us…
That’s alright, just leave the missus at home… oh no, that kind of defeats the object…:p
*cough* probably next to the canopy winder bits *cough* :p
lol, and the Mk20C 6A/3156 altimeter for sim use!:)
It seems like you’re in the enviable position Si in being able to test the equipment out before buying something.
The only lens I have of those (and thus can comment on) is the Sigma APO DG 70-300mm Macro 1:4-5.6 which I use on a Nikon D60, this requires the AF motor to be in the lens, but it is available with or without.
I’m on a budget and for the money I find it a great lens, very smooth action, nice size and weight, and get results that I’m very happy with.
I guess ultimately like any lens it comes down to what you want to pay really, but the Sigma strikes me as a very good balance of price and performance.
I don’t use IS, we never had it years ago and I’m not bothered by it now.
Here’s two pics I took today, straight out of the camera, not cropped , both taken at the full 300mm, at 1/320sec, and 100 ASA.
I wasn’t trying hard to get a good shot and they were taken in very windy conditions!


Pageno1.
It looks like it could be a typo as, although the span is indicated to be longer, the wing area does not change.
Very good point and beautifully presented!:o
Interesting pic there Baz, be interesting to see others.
T/O I think from underneath the engine nacelle might obscure the inboard join a bit, but the flap is split at that point, thanks for trying. I haven’t seen that book.
It’s G-NADZ:o
Oh no, GONADZ! I’m sorry but I would have to re-register that!:D
Happy flying though:)
Certainly no rush from me, like to do things Cornish style – dreckly!:)
Pagen my understanding from my post on the first page was that the Hastings/Hermes is a 113′ Span, 1408 SQFt Wing, while the Halifax is a (@mk I)98′ 8″ or (not sure where I originally got 103′ 8″ from??) (@mk VI) 104′ 2″ span 1190 SQFt wing?
I’m sorry but I cant find any online reference to a 34.2M (112′ 2″) span Halifax wing? – can you advise your source?
Is this a mismatch or misquote of feet to yard conversion not feet to Metre conversion as 104’2″ = 34.7 Yards
I have a typed spec sheet giving 34.2 on later marks, and there is an online resource that lists every Halifax mark and the wingspan, and gives the later models as 34.2, darned if I can find it at the moment.
However it looks like I and that source were wrong, and you could be right, ‘Flight’ lists the Halton (which had the final wing) wingspan as 103’8″ (31.6m)
Just found the online source, http://www.sonsofdamien.co.uk/Halifax.htm, it looks well put together but I guess the weight of evidence now suggests that it is wrong.
What exactly are people looking for re the Hasting wing? :confused:
Personally speaking I would love to know the distances of wing tip to the first wing join (just outboard of outer engine), the intermediate section span (ie from that join to the one just outboard of the inner engine), and confirmation of the centre section span – however I entirely undertstand that this isn’t the easiest of tasks!
Thank you for bringing to our attention some reminiscences and the sad passing of another brave airman, RIP.