A tad chilly on a beach in October. 😀
Actually the inlaws went to Jersey in October and had a warm and very sunny week, more so than they experienced in Wales all summer!
Taking a chance though.
Seriously I would concur with others about Malta, cheap, just right in October temp and weather wise, plus you have the beautiful Valetta city, though the big sandy beach is at the opposite end of the island.
A tad chilly on a beach in October. 😀
Actually the inlaws went to Jersey in October and had a warm and very sunny week, more so than they experienced in Wales all summer!
Taking a chance though.
Seriously I would concur with others about Malta, cheap, just right in October temp and weather wise, plus you have the beautiful Valetta city, though the big sandy beach is at the opposite end of the island.
Oh well it didn’t die in vain:D
Gokone, many thanks for your well thought out Valiant update, sadly the 60th anniversary of the type on the 18th of last month seems to have passed the forum by.
Is XD826 at Rayleigh viewable?
Nice work Deryck, when you look at drawings and cutaways the Hastings intermediate wing section definitely looks more substantial.
The bit that still confuses me (dosen’t take much!) is that With the Halifax wing the outer wing break line is just inboard of the outer engines with the flaps extending across that joint to be partly housed in the outboard wing sections, whereas on the Hastings the wing joint is outboard of the outboard engines and at the natural flap to aileron joint.
Therefore the Hastings intermediate section span must be greater anyway to accommodate the outboard engine and spacing, but in theory the outer wings would be shorter because of that.
The change in leading edge sweepback wouldn’t necessarily mean a major change in wing design, but it does suggest that the intermediate section is extended over the amount needed just to hang the engine on and result in the increased span.
Be interesting to know how Elvington got around all these detail differences.
PS I have done some illustrations showing the differing wing breaks, but my scanner’s gone bang! This link shows the Halifax breakdown quite nicely though, http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1942/1942%20-%200871.html?search=halifax%20wing
If anyone gets the chance to get any more measurements (esp the Hastings for me) between engines and wing breaks etc it would be great to see them here.
Nice picture and story Autostick, and welcome:)
Yes please Redhillwings, probably best start a new thread and then let the questions roll in, I’m sure there will be plenty of interest in it here:)
That sounds good, be interesting to find out more about these lovely cockpits.:)
Does it matter?
It is a bit easy to get high and mighty about these things, but as well as educating and preserving a museum of Duxfords’ size and set up has to entertain and welcome as much as possible all visitors.
To some of us they might be quite distinct collections with their own collection policies, ie IWM (British & associated military), AAM (American Military), OFMC (flying warbirds), and DAS (Airliners)etc, but to most it is large collection of aeroplanes and a great day out.
Personally I probably fit in the middle, I have a very keen interest in seeing certain types restored and displayed (ie Shackleton, Ambassador, Gannet etc), but also I enjoy to seeing the other types which might not quite fit in quite so well. The CASA 2.111 is in that pile but I enjoy looking at it and glad that it’s there, along with the Bronco etc.
I can’t see the problem of it being there at all, but I would dearly like to see a decision made on what is happening to it, either embrace it and restore it or pass it over to somewhere that will, it seems to sit in limbo at the moment.
Is that the Valiant cockpit that was at Bruntingthorpe, or is that still there… not been to Brunt for ages…. (bad as I’m local!)
How many Valiant cockpits are in existence?
Am I right to believe the only whole aircraft is at Cosford now (ex-Hendon)?
Going off an earlier post, the one at Brunty is now in Scotland, Inverness I believe.
Four
Yes
Demobbed (http://www.demobbed.org.uk/aircraft.php?type=1163) be your friend!;)
One of the best images on the subject I have even seen was a Flight Engineers training course hangar at At Athan, with Stirlings, Lancasters, Halifax, Sunderland, Liberator, and Catalina complete cockpits/front ends c.’44/’45, I think some would kill for that kind of collection!
The problematic thing is that she has said she would like to go somewhere hot and with a beach, however, I am not a very good beach person (I can’t stand just sitting/lying on a beach all day!), so I am thinking of combining a city/beach style trip.
Thanks in advance.:)
Just ignore the headline and you will thank me later for saving you money, http://londoniscool.com/is-this-the-worst-beach-in-the-world!
The problematic thing is that she has said she would like to go somewhere hot and with a beach, however, I am not a very good beach person (I can’t stand just sitting/lying on a beach all day!), so I am thinking of combining a city/beach style trip.
Thanks in advance.:)
Just ignore the headline and you will thank me later for saving you money, http://londoniscool.com/is-this-the-worst-beach-in-the-world!
Apart from the Australian event and besides some other limited US & overseas interest it does seem to be one of those peculiarly British hobbies:)
Although I entirely get why cockpits are a great way of collecting and showing bits of aeroplane, it would be interesting to know where & how it all started really.
I’m guessing it originally stemmed from the forces training and exhibition cockpit sections of old?
Yep, what Peter says, fantastic!
Without going back through the thread what is the eventual aim regarding displaying it Cees?
Nice couple of pictures of the seldom seen Valiant B.2:)