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November 22, 2012 at 6:41 pm in reply to: Barry Leeming's Royal Navy FAA images #961574

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Superb pictures, thanks for sharing and posting.

November 22, 2012 at 6:29 pm in reply to: bit stormy #961608

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Wolverine, Michigan, FM-2Wildcat?

November 22, 2012 at 6:08 pm in reply to: bit stormy #961634

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I was thinking that (along with Otter), but land dwelling, and larger than a Badger?
Tailplane looks too tapered as well;)

November 22, 2012 at 5:56 pm in reply to: bit stormy #961661

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Honey Badger!

November 22, 2012 at 5:43 pm in reply to: Unidentified objects #961807

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The TACAN controller in pic 2 is definitely the correct type for Shackleton AEW.2.
I must admit that the item in pic 1 I have never seen inside any Shackleton (that’s not to say they weren’t fitted in any), I’m actually wondering if it’s from a Nimrod MR.1 which was a lot more ‘black boxy’ than the 2? If so quite rare I would think.
The other item needs to be viewed from the front for me to guess at!

Might be worth getting the attention of, or PMing Exmpa about the first item.

November 22, 2012 at 1:55 pm in reply to: A/c type change?… #962126

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…eg- Blenheim mk 1,11,111,1V then the Bisley to mk V Blenheim.

Just to be politely pedantic, it’s Mk I, II, III, IV etc in Roman numerals.
Important to highlight as ‘II’ is two and ’11’ is eleven, for example there was both a Vampire Mk II (development fighter) and a Mk 11 (T11 Trainer).
The British Roman numeral mark system was phased out mid to late 1940s by the Arabic numeral system that is still in use, example Meteor Mk III became known as the Mk 3.

November 22, 2012 at 1:09 pm in reply to: Museum storage #962151

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Sadsack, I don’t think it was designed to sit outside in the elements, especially when you watch the programme!

As I recall from the programme, it is a terrible replica – I dont think I would want it in my collection even it was gifted with a few grand to sort it out! Oh, and by that, I dont mean that the people who made the moulds did a bad job; more that the manner of assembling it once at Cosford was not going to create a decent job.

Don’t forget that it was an excercise to see if an ‘Airfix kit’, and its traditional breakdown of parts, could be assembled by youngsters in full size, I don’t think it was really intended to be an accurate replica as such, great project for the kids to be involved with and build up.
I do agree that it must be a useful asset to the museum as families/kids etc will recognise it from the telly for what it is, part of the education and entertainment remit of the museum.

November 22, 2012 at 10:43 am in reply to: Museum storage #962357

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know you’re not, but absolutely agree.
Would rather see BP collections’ Balliol on display at RAFM, the Overstrand front end, as a rare illustration of pre-war RAF bombers, deserves proper public display as well.
Idealy the museum needs to inherit one of the other C Type sheds and expand.

Will the BP collection workers and volunteers be able to carry on their great work within RAF Cosford?

Not quite the same thing as storage I know, but when it comes to the restoration facilities, the Fleet Air Arm Museum is the only one that really seems to have nailed it, by having the restoration facility adjoining the museum building and being viewable during normal entry times.

November 22, 2012 at 10:26 am in reply to: Firefly question #962478

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Yes please!

November 22, 2012 at 10:05 am in reply to: Tornado F2 Prototype ZA267 #962484

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Second that SF, would be great to see ’02’ in its BAe development colours, and be ideal for display at Cosford.

November 22, 2012 at 9:53 am in reply to: What would everyone would like to see fly in 2013? #962486

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I’d also love to see the Gannet flying too, although I’m not sure how far off that is from a return to flight…

Updates, as always here, http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=113913&page=5&highlight=gannet

Inc a flying Beech 18!

November 21, 2012 at 9:40 pm in reply to: Firefly question #962974

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I think that’s why Nick was careful to say that it could have been from a similar deck accident, and why I was saying that the only frame there that could have possibly had the same damage would be ‘978 which we can’t see properly.
All aircraft concerend have their wings partially or fully folded, so unlikely that the wings were spread before being stripped and dumped.

I think Nick is on the right path with a deliberate dumping overboard, I can’t currently find details of the one I mentioned earlier.

There’s a good number of Sea Hawks down there (R.Navy, German, Dutch, Indian), unfortunately without knowing location details of the wreck, matching or it’s serial it’s going to be a guess.

November 21, 2012 at 1:57 pm in reply to: Firefly question #963458

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Just edited my last, out of those aircraft can WM978 be the only contender?

Deck accidents were too common (see recent Wyvern thread), FAA deck crews (and aircrew of course) definitely earned every penny that they received, what a horrendous working environment they had to endure.

November 21, 2012 at 1:39 pm in reply to: Firefly question #963475

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That’s a good call Nick, the damage to the inboard wing area seems cunducive to being involved with that incident.
I can’t view the pic at the mo, but are the jetpipes etc missing? I know one of the Sea Hawk disposals lists it as stripped of useful parts before being dumped overboard.
Could it be WM987? Edit, damage in wrong area, is WM978 more likely?

November 21, 2012 at 11:30 am in reply to: Firefly question #963522

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It doesn’t look like a U.8 or 9 drone.
I’m wondering it’s an early Firefly Mk.I – III variant as it doesn’t seem to have the leading edge radiator extensions, but maybe these are obscured, or lost in the ditching.? Having said that it does appear to have the squared off wing tips of the IV on. Looks to be in reasonable condition.

There were a few Sea Hawk ditchings in the Med, including WM916, WM968 (Genoa harbour) WV840, WV849, & XE405.
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