Kev, I don’t have a link for the Guinea Pig club list and I’m not sure if it’s even on the web. The list I checked is the one at the back of the book “MacIndoe’s Army”.
If there’s a particular name you want to check, I’d be happy to have a look for you. It only lists names though, no details.
Hurricats? Mmmmm…if only!
Posted on Ross McNeills forum, so we shall see…
Intriguing. No Aircrew Europe Star more or less rules out Bomber Command (I may be wrong there)
No bar on the Africa star may not be significant as they appear to be miniatures. The Atlantic Star would tend to point towards Coastal Command Wouldn’t it? Also, the issue of no further Campaign medals tend to suggest his operational career ended somewhere in the Middle East.
Coastal does look likely. Might be worth getting in touch with the guy who wrote Coastal Command Losses. I think he has posted on here before, Ross something or other?
Skypilot. Let me know if I’m treading on your toes only i tend to be a bit like a dog with a bone.
Regards,
kev35
Kev, if you’re like a dog with a bone then we share the same attitude, and considering I’m asking for assistance, you’re most certainly not treading on my toes – I appreciate the help! I love a good mystery to sink my teeth into and gathering all the bits of info. It would be smashing to find that Ben is still alive and well, but the march of time etc…..
I spoke to my mum and the photographers is long gone and she couldn’t even recall sending me the picture let alone where Ben was from!
Miniatures could/did have bars – kind of a slip-on/slider type affair but as you say, not too significant in itself as they were easily lost. With the Atlantic star there’s got to be a coastal command element somewhere (would be great if it was 90 sqdn’s Forts!), perhaps Sunderlands is going to be favourite? That said, to earn a caterpillar whilst on Sunderlands would be less likely than say Wellingtons which were used by costal command and saw service in the middle east. Again, not conclusive but a possibility. For European ops you would expect to see an Air Crew Europe or France & Germany bars (you couldn’t have the Atlantic and the other medals, just bars) on an Atlantic star and as there is no bar on his miniature Africa, perhaps he’s also missing a bar from his Atlantic – again, not likely but all possibilities.
I’ve sent an e-mail to the records officer at Irvin in Herts as they state they have records for every award so that may will turn up something conclusive. The Guinea Pig lists show 3 chaps with the surname “Lee” but non with “B” as an initial. Of course, Ben could also be a nickname which would complicate matters further!
Certainly alot further forward than this time yesterday when I re-discovered the photo! Again, thanks one and all for the help so far.
Dean
Caterpillar badge – confirmed!
Okay, the badge is a bit out of focus but you can definitely make out the Ruby eyes on the left and the splayed “tail end” to the right – superb. I can’t believe I just assumed it was a thread!
The medals are also fairly conclusively 39-45 Star; Atlantic Star; Africa Star; Defence Medal; War Medal.
Okay, next stop, the Caterpillar club!
Anyone want to try and narrow down some types/squadrons that would fit the medals? I know this depends on how much he changed units.
I was thinking possibly Wellingtons, Beaufighters, Hudsons amongst others.
Thanks alot chaps, I’m touched that you’ve gone to so much trouble.
I too am fairly certain that the third medal is the africa star, but it has no bar on it which most (although not all) aircrew I’ve met tended to have. The second ribbon looks more Atlantic than italy, and as has been said, wrong order.
Regarding the caterpillar badge, you could be on to something there. I always thought it looked like a loose thread but I’ll enlarge it to see. That would certainly help. No immediate joy with the Guinea Pig Club (the web is full of furry creature links but few to anything that really matters!!)
The only info I have is what I mentioned. The photo (sent by my mum whilst I was away from home says that he suffered 90% burns “during the war” and “he’d love to talk to you about his experiences” and nothing more than that. I just feel I ought to follow it up even though belatedly. There’s not a single veteran who doesn’t deserved to be listened to.
He looks exhausted…
So that’s what Dunlop “Green Flash” are now used for – anti flash gear.
Bizarrely mine was a Fiesler Storch, probably Airfix. I remember it was white plastic. I too decided that the ideal wartime markings were “sumdge grey” and “fingerprint grub”. I think I was about 6 too. A shame my skills haven’t improved a great deal since then either! Just helping my 7 year old son finish his first ever kit, a 1:72 BAe Hawk, in Red Arrows scheme.
Hi
the only loss that I can find in the MACR and AAR listings is not a P-38 but an ex RAF P-39:
430119; P-400; BX385; 345th FS 350th FG; 12th AAF; TAC (training accident); Davidson, Robert S.; TUN, La Seina, Oran
no other losses in that area on 19th/20th January 1943
How does that sound ?
Martin
Blinkin’ ‘eck Martin! I think that should do the trick!! 🙂
Try the links on this page : http://www.airsam.clara.net/menu1.htm
Aha…been after this info for ages, knew someone would know where to find it. Thanks gents!
See also here:-
http://www.aviationarchaeology.com/src/astamps.htm
http://www.aviationarchaeology.com/src/partmanu.htm
http://www.aviationarchaeology.com/src/partaircraft.htm
Geoff
Superb Geoff – nicely fills in alot of my gaps, cheers!
as addition:
NA97 = A-36 Apache (with dive brakes)
NA99 = P-51A / Mustang II
NA103 = P-51C (early version) / Mustang III
NA104 = P-51B (later version) / Mustang III
NA111 = P-51C (later version) / Mustang III
NA111 = P-51K-NT (early Dallas-built = Mustang IVA
NA122 = P-51D-NA (later version) / Mustang IV
NA124 = P-51D-NT (late version Dallas built) / Mustang IVMartin / Swiss Mustangs
Martin you are a star – many thanks!
“And why not?
Have you never been to a Rocky Horror Show late night screening?” – Moggy C
R U suggesting we go dressed in suspenders then a la Susanah York?
I think you need to call in the experts!
There’s a Scottish trio I’ve heard of that are very experienced with this kind of work: Ben Dhoon, Phil MacCrackin, Phil MacCrevice. I’m sure they can help.
Sorry, dont know as I dont take regs.
Just wondering if it was my aircraft as I was flying on that day.
Sorry, dont know as I dont take regs.
Just wondering if it was my aircraft as I was flying on that day.