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  • in reply to: pilots head gear #1397970
    skypilot62
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    Hmmmmm…..

    Not aircrew issue so more likely engineering/welders goggles. The seller doesn’t say why he thinks that they are WW2 issue and having dealt with him before under a different guise, I’d be cautious at taking it on face value. If they were Luftwaffe there should be a stores number begining “Fl” somewhere on them.

    Incidentally, the helmet shown is an RAF B-type of the same sort shown above.

    in reply to: pilots head gear #1398561
    skypilot62
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    I take it he wasn’t wearing googles at the time? I would have thought the oxygen mask and goggles would have prevented major damage, at least?

    Aha!

    In which case, I can’t answer that one with absolute certainty. Judging by the design of Page’s visor compared to the MkIII goggles though, I would imagine he was wearing MkIII’s which still left a large amount of facial skin exposed to fragments even when worn properly so Page designed an “all covering” visor. Purely supposition on my part but would seem logical.

    in reply to: pilots head gear #1398762
    skypilot62
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    Careful Daz, my anorak side is coming to the fore here!

    The goggles most often seen worn during the early BoB period were MkIII’s or MkIIIa’s, which had celluloid lens. Only later on were new goggles designed which had glass lenses (MkIV series – with the flip-shield sun visor) and they entered service mid-late BoB but weren’t particularly popular as they were heavy, cumbersome, and fiddly, hence the simple MkIII’s stayed in use. The down side of celluloid though is that it does indeed burn and melt well. He did not wear his goggles underneath the visor.

    Whilst I cannot conclusively say why, but I would imagine Geoffrey Page thought his new visor design would offer more protection from fragments, and chose to take a chance on the burn factor. He states that after he returned to ops, he did wear issue goggles, pushed up on his flying helmet “just in case”. These had glass lenses.

    Fire protection – the D-type mask (canvas & chamois) and B-type helmet (leather & chamois) being both fabric made or lined so had little in the way of fire retardant qualities especially if fuel or oil was leaking all over them. IIRC D-type masks were also “constant flow” masks rather than on demand so a steady flow of oxygen would also have been fuelling the fire in that area. Fire protection was not seen so much as a priority back then and Nomex was years in the future.

    Possibly of some interest.

    in reply to: Any Medal Experts Out There? #1399086
    skypilot62
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    1939-45 Star:

    Bars
    – Battle of Britain – awarded to aircrew for at least one operational sortie with an accredited fighter squadron during the designated period (10th July-31st October 1940). Hence a pilot shot down on 9th July and remaining non-operational until 1st November would not qualify but an air gunner of an “accredited” squadron flying his first op on the evening of 31st October would qualify. The bar is only worn on the full-size medal ribbon. On tunic ribbons, the award of the bar is denoted by a gilt coloured rosette (bars on any other medal are denoted by silver rosettes).

    Air Crew Europe (ACE) Star:

    France & Germany bar – awarded to all aircrew (not just pilots) who qualified during the time frame mentioned above.

    e.g. A fighter pilot on sweeps over Europe, Dieppe etc. flying prior to D-Day would have earnt an ACE star. He continues flying over Europe post D-Day therefore technically earning a France & Germany star but as he already has an ACE star, he can only add a France & Germany bar to it – no separate medal. This bar is worn as above and is represented by a silver rosette on the tunic ribbon of the ACE star.

    Nice & easy eh? !!!! Why the govt. came up with such a convaluted scheme is beyond me. Don’t even try to understand how you can have an ACE with Atlantic bar OR an Atlantic star with an ACE bar……(both of which were awarded)

    in reply to: pilots head gear #1399096
    skypilot62
    Participant

    The helmet is a standard RAF B-type helmet and D-type oxygen mask.

    The celluloid face mask worn in the picture by Geoffrey Page was made especially for him by his ground crew after a fellow pilot got a face-full of glass splinters from a cannon shell exploding on the armoured screen. Being made of celluloid, as Geoffrey himself said, “It burned quite beautifully!”. It was this mask which he was wearing when he got burned.

    For a fuller description see: Vintage Flying Helmets by Mick Prodger

    in reply to: Another photo competition….. #1420853
    skypilot62
    Participant

    See, I knew someone would guess correctly within the hour! Yes, yes, very droll. 😉

    in reply to: Forget-Me-Nots For Fighters #1421089
    skypilot62
    Participant

    Addendum

    Almost forgot, here’s the original owners named signed into the front of the book. It may ring a (scramble) bell or two (bit of a clue).

    Can anyone guess where or how this book might have ended up on the Isle of Man? ( I do know, but as I said I’m a bit bored!)

    in reply to: Spitfire Fund 1940 – Help with initials please! #1423111
    skypilot62
    Participant

    I have forwarded your query to the expert.

    Mark

    Thanks Mark. I look forward to the response.

    Dean

    in reply to: Hendon Founder's Day 1968 Flying Display #1423241
    skypilot62
    Participant

    ‘Sqaudron Leader Johnston and his BRISTOLS…’

    You’d think the poor chap would have strapped them down or had them removed or summat…

    you forgot the rest…

    “to attack a trench in line abreast” 😀

    in reply to: Hendon Founder's Day 1968 Flying Display #1424347
    skypilot62
    Participant

    That’s interesting look about the Spit- listed as being from the ‘Battle Of Britain Memorial Flight’- in 1968? Further proof (there is more) that the BBMF was at least party known as the BBMF, before it officially became the BBMF in 1973!

    Hadn’t picked up on that – good point given the current trend towards renaming it.

    Don’t suppose anyone on the forum has pictures of the day from relatives, veterans etc.? must have been a fairly exclusive crowd.

    in reply to: King's Cup Air Race #1425212
    skypilot62
    Participant

    Not the King’s Cup but….

    I thought these may be of interest. Alex Henshaw won in 1936 and 1937 – note the autograph. I can scan my 1937 programme if anyone’s interested.

    in reply to: very low flying spitfire video #1434424
    skypilot62
    Participant

    Geedee,

    You may want to check this link which deals with the subject matter extensively when it was brought up by myself a few months ago.

    http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=30073&highlight=low+spitfire

    in reply to: "The End" is nigh ? #1436854
    skypilot62
    Participant

    A collective forum “told you so”……

    in reply to: Channel 4 Time Team Invader Dig #1356509
    skypilot62
    Participant

    Well worth the trip! I made a visit on my way to Leuchars this year and saw some of the Invader parts recovered – v.impressive! The mountain rescue stuff is also superb.

    in reply to: Ebay spade grip/control column #1368751
    skypilot62
    Participant

    It’s a lovely piece and worth the winning bid in my opinion.

    If I’d seen it, I would have bid on it. But you cannot spend all day, every day searching through eBay.

    I was interested in it for a while but the price got a bit too rich for me. If only I’d taken a chance because today I’ve just received a couple of e-mails telling me that not only have I won the Euro-lottery draw (not bad considering I’ve never heard of it!) but I’ve also been offered the chance to help someone out in Nigeria & Gold Coast & ivory Coast in recovering millions of unclaimed dollars (oops, I’ve let the secret out now!). Typical! One minute no cash, then several million come along all at once. I think a PM to Mark12 must be in order now as I’ll need several Spits to spend my cash on obviously.

    All I need to do now is send the guy all my personal and bank account details and the money will be mine. I can’t believe how lucky I am, and just before Christmas too!

    ( 😀 😀 😉 😉 😀 😀 )

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