Alex, I have the manual for the Mk.4E in electronic form if it’s any use to you? I’m not sure if it’s 100% complete but it’s got all the details you should need. I could convert it and send it as a .pdf file (Adobe Acrobat format).
Let me know.
the type was fitted to Hunters and similar vintage jets too.
Similar type, but not this mark. ’twas a Mk.5 or later a Mk.8 GGS in a Hunter.
We bought it from North Weald but it was from Stuart Gowans – so it could have done but he didnt mention it – it is superb from the outside, but was grotty inside (albeit the majot chunks are inside) have given it a general spruce up but do need some control column gaiters – does anyone have any spare?
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It was actually Cockpitfest 2003 when Stuart displayed it and it won 2nd prize if memory serves.
When is the cockpitfest this year? Also is any aerojumble or flypast organised as it was last year?
Full details here http://www.internationalcockpitclub.org.uk/cockpitfest.htm
We may bring our Vamp but we are Cockpitfest virgins and i doubt she’ll be up to the standards on show!
TEXANTOMCAT, the condition doesn’t matter a jot. To be honest we could do with a few more attending that are “work in progress” or “not quite finished” in order to give visitors a feel for the huge amount of restoration work that goes on behind the scenes. I’ve always felt that just displaying lovely, shiny, restored cockpits doesn’t do justice to the efforts people put into them. My Hunter is in a hideous state of disrepair so if I do manage to get it there it will scare the life out of small children I can assure you!
Not yet I’m afraid. I normally get updates from the organisers at Newark to add to the website, but Bill hasn’t got access to e-mail at the moment so I’m not sure how well that’s going to work this time.
I do know that Mick Jennings is planning on taking a number of the cockpits from the Coltishall collection this year which should be an amazing sight and you can always rely on people like Tony Dyer, Tony Collins, Stuart Gowans, AeroVenture, Frand Lund, Karl Edmondson etc., etc. to put on a fine show.
Are you planning on taking the Hornet?
(I know, I know, I owe you an e-mail 🙂 )
MarkG are you taking your Hunter this year old fruit? I am undecided whether I will take the F1 (which has not been before but is complete but ‘tatty’) or the F6. The Museum will be taking its Jaguar complete with working (extending/retracting) AAR probe and cockpit lighting.
I’m desperately trying to get it into a transportable condition with the aim of taking it this year. Unfortunately, I’ve still not joined it back together where it was cut down the middle. I am hoping to do that in the next few weeks though. I’m then planning to mount it on a LOX trolley – should then be a simple case of hiring a trailer to move it. I guess there’s still a good 1-2 years restoration work to be done so ain’t going to be pretty, but will make a nice contrast against the restored examples on display.
I reckon this years event is going to be a real cracker and I can hardly wait! 🙂
It was a noble effort and I am pleased Andy invited people to attend and offered some money towards costs. Cockpits are expensive to transport. I often get asked to take cockpits to shows. To attend Newark CockpitFest costs about £250 all in (van hire + fuel) but for me is worth every penny as there are so many great people to meet. Unfortunately I cannot attend as many as I would like.
Transporting a cockpit is no trivial undertaking and I fully understand the reasons for the limited response received from cockpit owners – in fact I warned Andy when he first suggested the idea that we would struggle with numbers, primarily, because of the travelling distance involved. I have no complaints at all against the cockpit owners, quite the reverse in fact.
The fact is that the idea was suggested purely as a device to promote Shoreham aerojumble and not to promote the cockpit preservation movement. The shame is that it seems the plan was dropped like a hot potato when it became clear that there weren’t going to be huge numbers of cockpits in attendance. There were two cockpit owners who were keen and willing to support the plan and display cockpits. In the end they, and those of us who who put effort into trying to organise attendees, didn’t even get a reply of e-mail or return of phone-call.
I, like you, find CockpitFest immensely enjoyable and so that, for me, will be the one and only.
Any one know which aircraft cockpits will be attending Shoreham Aerojumble next week?
That’s an easy one to answer – none!
Unfortunately there was limited interest from cockpit owners so the organisers of the aerojumble lost interest and just stopped speaking to us. There were two cockpit owners who said they would attend, but when the organisers went quiet they, quite rightly, said forget it then.
I don’t know what he was expecting – hundreds of cockpits converging on Shoreham from all over the globe presumably. :rolleyes:
Most old British instruments use 4BA screws to secure them to the panel. Some of the bigger items might use a larger 2BA screw but the majority are 4BA.
They are usually countersunk, but some will have a round head.
By the 1960’s there was a move to unify thread sizes (by Britain, US and Canada) and so UNC and UNF sizes started to be used.
If you get hold of a load of 4BA countersunk head screws of about 1″ long though, you’ll be able to fit most, but not all, older British instruments.
Scans of the cockpit photos from the Attacker Pilot’s Notes if they’re any use to you…
If anyone has a colour photo of the Vampire in 32 squadron markings or a colour drawing I would be most grateful.
This is the best I can come up with I’m afraid. It’s taken from “Warpaint Series No.27, de Havilland Vampire” by W.A.Harrison.
Confuses the issue even more though because the markings are different (no stripe) and this book shows the crest with the King’s crown but the wording “Squadron” instead of “Fighter Squadron”. :confused:
And here’s the same Vampire but from the other side! 🙂
I was intrigued by the writing around the upper portion of the badge. Normally this just reads “Squadron”, positioned centrally. However, on checking the RAF Heraldry site, it seems that 32’s original badge showed “Fighter Squadron”. So that fits.
That’s interesting. Is that something that is likely to have changed when the crown changed from the King’s to Queen’s crown? The RAF Marham site shows the wording just as “Squadron” but with the Queen’s crown.
The current 32 Sqn. crest has changed again of course to “Royal Squadron” as they took over the duties of the Queen’s Flight.
I’m very interested in understanding this as the Vampire T.11 pod I’m restoring started it’s service life with 32 Sqn. in the Middle East and returned to the UK in 1957 when they converted to Canberras. I suspect it may have been the squadrons only T.11 but can’t be sure. I would like to return the pod to it’s 32 Sqn. colour scheme so getting the crest right is important.
I’m also intrigued by the stripe behind the crest…?
The hand operated sirens “wail” at whatever speed you turn the handle. To get the rise and fall note you just wind it up then slow down, wind it up again etc.. The “all clear” was a steady wail so you just wind it at a constant speed.
They work by spinning a sort of “fan” thing (not sure what the proper name is) inside the casing at high speed. There’s a whole load of gearing in there to make the fan spin very much faster than the handle, that’s why they take a bit of time to wind up in the first place.
Anyway, there are three on eBay at the moment so you could buy your own and give it a try!
Anybody got any idea what this lot is ?
Yup. That’s a load of instruments that is. No question about it. 🙂
Seriously, you have quite a mixture of post-war instruments there. A rate-of climb indicator in the top right corner, three turn-and-slips, that box in the middle is a gyro compass corrector box as fitted to Hunters, Vampires, Sea Hawks etc..
And (silly question) what is a turn and slip ?
A turn-and-slip is basically an instrument which indicates to the pilot the rate of turn of the aircraft, and the amount of side-slip. The older British T and S did this with two seperate needles (you have two of the later 2-needle types in the bottom right corner of your photo), the alternative type of T and S is the type you see in the top left corner which has a needle to indicate the rate of turn but a ball (in damping fluid) to indicate the side-slip.
The rate of turn needle is operated by an electrically or vacuum operated rate gyro, and the side-slip indicator usually works using a relatively simple pendulum arrangement within the instrument and centrifugal/centripetal force.
Incidentally, to correct the side-slip you “step on the ball” so if the ball drifts to the right you depress the right rudder pedal to correct for it. This is simplified rather, and I’m sure the people who know what they’re talking about will correct me, but you get the idea!
By the way, I know of someone who is looking for a pair of the 2-needle T and S you have there, so if you fancy parting with them let me know 😀