They are rotorcraft. What matters is payload and payload at range. For troop insertion, ballistic protection is one of the main variable as excessive power (evasive maneuver and choice of trajectory) and rotor surface per number of troop.
Noise is also one of the main thing you want to monitor. I am not used with the Mil but the BlackHawk outperform the Puma’s (and the Dauphin) with a pitch noise only directly perpendicular to the trajectory (rear rotor I assume).

As written earlier there are no more efficient commonalities b/w civilian and Military design in rotorcraft (does not includes systems obviously).

The Mil and Pumas are comfortable (although impaired with high level of vibrations and (perhaps) higher acoustic noise in the main cabin increasing personnel fatigue and all around SA) but taller. There constitute juicy targets for opponents with minimalized system resiliency against ballistic fire.

Until then let’s assume you made that up.

“The problem is the company,” Le Drian told the defense committee of the lower house National Assembly on Nov. 2, the official minutes of which were recently released. “Today, the A400Ms delivered are not operational – and the problem does not concern just France: that is the case everywhere.

Je ne suis pas responsable du MCO des hélicoptères, […] Cela dit, NHI n’est pas réputé pour être un industriel particulièrement performant.
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I am not in charge of helicopter maintenance […], that said NHI isn’t known to be a performing industrial

(Collet-Billon – Head of the DGA answering to the Senate defense commission and suggesting that maintenance could be handed over to the public sector).

Go tell them that…

But still they don’t (normally) help in keeping the Fr strategic network of subcontractors afloat 😉

Once again, showing absence of knowledge. Or do you think official costs from Senate are fake? Comparing with unknown content journo quoted costs? Better continue on Rafale thread no?

C’mon, Hallo, you clearly understand what’s the meaning: the Fr senate cost correspond to a Rafale configuration that hasn’t scored any export sales and does not correspond anymore to any offers. It is then irrelevant as a comparative basis for export.

If you then say that the Fr taxpayer got a better deal than the US one, then this is different and there ae some basis for an argumentation ( I discussed it in length a decade ago on Kovi’s website ;). )

Too bad that’s not reflected in the contract prices 🙁

Don’t take those number by the words. There is a lot of smoke screen in that. Fr Industry can’t afford an open competition since it is considered (rightfully) strategic. Now, arguing that a Rafale cost what the Fr Senate says when public cost of export are showing up is like selling a Renault for a Mercedes*… The AdlA has been taking Dassault and its partners by the hand for years adapting to its only remaining industrial champions for the sake of Fr interests. The losses in capabilities and closed eyes on OP cost are slowly showing up.

*The Raf, has built originally for the FrAF didn’t meet any success internationally… Hence its price doesn’t matter.

The lack of carrier onboard delivery plane (France used to get for free an USN C2) might drive any spare cost up (direct cost + higher volume of stocks). Factor in the single Carrier concept that does not fill any logics given the present posture and you have all for such a dramatic inflation (aside of Dassault higher spare cost to keep “nurturing” a network of said-so strategic contractors).

In the meanwhile Serbians hope to revive novi avion project with UAE funds.

This one should never have been deleted. But I fear that the today NoviAvion is already flying in… India as the Teja.
What was the estimated % of completion at the time?

Fine and very informative hread by the way.

Did F-35 reach 9G?

If you mean by that, “is the 35 turning tighter?”, I think the Netherlands pilots give us a strong hint.. At least for 180deg.

G’s are overhyped in the context of aerial warfare. I don’t doubt you’ve seen it already in the countless watched and debated Rafale video that nailed a 22 in his visor without much excess energy.