The A-29 is no slouch in the armaments dept. It can carry AAMs just like the K-8 and has built-in machine guns in the wings as opposed to the K-8, where everything is carried in pods.
[JOKEMode=ON] With such faith in your statement I wonder if Justin Bieber have something linked in the Super Tucano 😮 [JOkeMode=OFF]
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However today’s threat scenario is radically different from the Cold War days, especially for European air forces. In that context, the F-35 could justifiably be perceived as overkill, but then so can the Gripen and F-16 if the objective is merely QRA. For that matter, even if they retired their fast jet fleets, the security of the EU or NATO would hardly be compromised.
Do you realize that this vision repose only on a personal analysis. Mil planing is all about adapting to the feasible. Frankly with that kind of thinking, let’s say it straight, the only things most Eu countries need are stealth armed bicycle (nearly).
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Please…. not again!!! I will start myself next days some topics; Dominican Republic vs Cuba, El Salvador vs Honduras or Portugal vs Spain. Those kind of topics are really not interesting.
Actually, Honduras Vs El Salvador is not as crazy as it looks. Recently there was some bashing at each other in th epress regarding the buy of 8 A37 to Chile by San Salvador (for 8M$ if I do remind well!) and the order by Tegucigalpa of 1 modern radar set and 4 or 6 small field radar to Israel (not sure) to monitor their share of the Gulfo da Fonseca
On another sad note, Costa Rica Vs Nicaragua is not that improbable if we speak about armed skirmish and the approval of the canal construction.
I agree with you on that part…. A-29 is far much better then the Chines toy plane K-8.
Guys did you have a look at P/W ratio and max speed (0.5 + M0.75 Vs 0.3 + M0.5)?
Basically it’s hawker Hunter Vs Spitfire
And I am not talking abt being outgunned! ….
But perhaps you are not referring at A2A
Super Tucano vs. K-8 has my money on the Super Tucanos.
LoL
Really? You are serious?
Air superiority will fall in the hand of the VnAF. No doubt. That it can hold that ground long enough to score some success, I am not sure. The only successful scenario that I see is if Colombian ground forces are deeply engaged in Venez for what ever reason they had to get into.
Then, will the US Atlantic carrier force let it goes for long ?
What a huge ASM !!! 😮
Does anyone see a solid fuel booster at the rear, like I do?
The argument for Kfir blk 60 is compelling a very good multi-role jet with good avionics weapons mix zero time over haul giving some 25 years service at a very good cost price of 500 million dollars but is this to much for the government Argentina.
I wonder why the IAF hve discarded their own Kfir long ago and bought expensive F16 in the US?
Yeah, Kfir, duck and run (after Bisons).
That the F1M deal might hve lacked a certain sense of vision does not makes the option of buying Kfir the apogée of the the good will. Otherwise, why not buy directly some upgraded F4 to the Turks/KAF and open an industrial strategic partnership?
F16, a better French package (that does not hve to be on a Fr airframe 😉 ) or Gripens built in Br with the Ar industry filling in the gap for an increase tempo of service introduction, will look much much better.
This is the South Am, the Sth Atlantic, it’s their own playground and it will look BIG in the future. I hope they won’t let old retro-colonialist arguments bully that opportunity.
A cool vid abt the Thunder:
[URL=”http://www.takeofftube.com/thumb/1_1784.jpg%5B/IMG] JF-17 THUNDER”][IMG]JF-17 THUNDER![]()
I thought that this thread deserved a breathtaking video of the teams… So here is one from the T-Birds:
Excellent found!
For sure this one got hooked faster but then on the radio…
Boomer to Thud
Contact!
Disco
Contact
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Btw anyone noticed the last post on Rafale, clue it flew as slow as 15 Kts …
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yes, many thanks for that.
The requirement is lowest possible operational cost alone ? What about a A-29 Super Tucano with US$2.000/h cost ? Or a LIFT, like M-346, Yak-130, F/A-50, etc ?
Let keep the Swiss estimate for Gripen NG, US$18 thousand/hour with fuel+maintenance, while Gripen NG has as estimated paylod of 6.0 ton.. How it compares with Rafale which costs for France US$20 thousand/h with fuel+maintenance, with a payload of 9.5 ton. ?
The cost alone doesn’t mean anything if the advantages are not taken in consideration.
Frankly, I don’t see how the Swiss are reaching a 18k$/hr value… unless the local Burgmeister is fueling the plane by himself… Which can happen.
http://www.f-16.net/g3/var/resizes/f-16-photos/album11/album12/YF-16A.jpg?m=1371917741
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3288/4559763220_22f979876b_o.jpgAF72-015568 is the second YF-16 prototype with F100 engine.
My bad. Sry.
The culprit will dedicate its next year looking as carefully at planes rear ends as it does with women.:o
F-16 :
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