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It is not the higher production rate what drives down cost, it is the competition.

Really? :rolleyes:

Yep… and?

They made the Foxbat and Foxhound capable of flying at M2.5+ sustained. They haven’t forgotten how they did that!

Even if it comes to it; the PVO version of PAK-FA can sacrifice some weight by using different materials along a number of leading edges and a different canopy material if needs be.

Y’know – sensible variants from a common baseline unlike some other programs.

I think tht the fact they hve planned to upgrade the 31 significantly, give us an idea on how they are gonna to proceed. The full size FA wld enter in service with interim composite skin at the pre-planned entry-service date and then they will calmly let the tech mature for a composite than can sustain the 2.5+. A latter version will enter in service with the full aspect of perfs.

@Rii: if you’d had a serious look at the shapes of the beast, you won’t be in the waiting for a statements that would told you only where to look.

Remember that the 50 is the kick that push the mod to talk seriously abt a 6th gen fighter after staying silent for years when ppl argued all ard abt the 20 being the last fighter, EO sensor ruling the fight and Re-configured B1 (or even more stupidly Airbuses!)as the deadly bird of prey of the modern age.

So hat down to Suk and the angry Russian for at least this achievement (and of course the beauty of their design): tech is now sailing slowly frwd again!

Low level with a B43 or B83 on the centerline station, F-104 was impossible to catch.

Too bad so many F-104s were lost due to the poor reliability of early J79s. Kelly Johnson refused to use General Electric engines after the J79 experience.

Very good insight DJ.

But please, understand that the LW went in majority from the F84/Sabre to the 104. Just as if you and me had switched during our childhood our soap car for a Mitsubishi Evo (imagine that smile! 😀 … Aswell as the one on your dad’s insurance broker’s face :rolleyes: )

me too.. like this mirage 2000 with aesa

How do you says Gorgeous in Hindi (भव्य)?

I’ve to admit that this theo makes sense (especially the thick wing airfoil). A flying speed boat would match the strategy of the IrRG

However, I don’t see them bothering to makes for an escape system for the pilot… and the awkward seating position in the vid seems to agree with me.

TKF-90 concept from late 70s

No. It’s not because it looks like a Typhoon that it is a Typhoon.

Bae had its own canard design since the late 60’s that roots the French/Brits commune design.

MS I understand that you hve a very good knowledge of what was designed by Ger, but, keep your heads up. Among the top cream of the design bureau ard Eu, the same idea surfaced in the late 60’s. That the Ger pushed the idea frwrd for various reason does not makes them at the avangarde of this new fashion.

At the time, there was a need to solve some of issues of the new gen of aircraft that would be in service in the 70’s. among them … nose authority. Canards, were then seen as the best idea in the lot and a tremendous work was done to correct there inherent deficiencies.

But this was the 70’s and this is why I don’t like canards fighters.

china do not need pakfa. there is enough update j11 and j15 with aesa.
but china do not mind selling j31 to russia and russia need it because they have no replacement for mig29

A scaled down version of the T50 could make for it.:rolleyes: