none yet –
June 2006 is still in the talk – i have my listening devices spread all over the Mustang community and there isn’t much new sofar.
Martin
Temptation
sadly lost in 1998
Martin
Does anyone remember a while back Flypast reporting that half the Confederate Air Force were coming over for a season?
Great as it would be, we have a Lancaster why not get the B-29 over here?
and 51 P-51 !
(as rehearsal to the “Last Round Up in June 2006, Reno, NV)
right – I know now what you guys are talking about – I haven’t touched my ‘Internee’ folders for quite a while……..
I will also have to invade Hans-Heiri Stapfer’s place soon (good friend of mine who has much material on this topic, too – author of many books) to retrieve some material…
Martin
Dave
sure I do have photos, mainly of the B-17, which was scrapped in the early 70’s after no one was willing to pay approx US$ 5’000.00 plus removal….. a shame indeed.
The Lanc recovery was mere bits and pieces, especially the Merlins.
I do have quite some information on the interned aircraft (incl. crashes) and there has been a series in AP about 15 years ago under the title “No Shots please – we’re British” dealing with the RAF losses over Switzerland.
I also am in contact with some of the Swiss recovery folks and will check what is still around – because there is (seen it myself).
Schaffner was an entrepreneur who specialized in recovery of material from lakes – among them many aircraft (besides crashed bombers he also raised Swiss Air Force jets after crashes…..)
There are still parts of a Lancaster in an artificial lake – the problem there is that the mud is very deep on the ground, making a recovery of the sunken/buried parts impossible. There also are rumours of a Halifax in Lake Constance, and it was believed that parts had been found – but again the thick mud on the ground made any recovery impossible.
In another lake, about 10 years ago substantial parts of another B-17 were raised and are now on display.
There also was much material from crashed B-17 brought down from the higher mountains.
From Lake Constance, a number of FW-190 canopies were raised – they had been dumped after VE-Day. Some are in great condition, i.e. the parts that stuck in the mud.
I will dig out my stuff and post some here.
Greetings from Switzerland
Martin
ah – OK 😮 – Mike J already pointed that one out. Thanks !
anyway – it’s good news to see this one back in the air and then within ‘easy’ reach from here.
Martin
uhmmm
what about the Yak-11 “Czech Ride” N11MQ (Reno Race #29) now resident in Freiburg (Germany)….two Yak-3U’s are also there
Martin
F-AZOO / J-DU (cn 636) Ex Swiss AF J-1127
F-AZOP / M-DU (cn 701) Ex Swiss AF J-1192
HB-RVH (cn 612) Ex Swiss AF J-1103 (cn 612)
Are these home tapes, or are they something that can be purchased somewhere? I am trying to get hold of footage of those B-25s! I am also looking for a couple of videos the Sally B group sold about 20 years ago. One was from Sion in Switzerland, and the other from somewhere in Germany (I think). When I contacted their sales crew they had no clue what I was talking about. 🙁 Any folks with a clue on this forum…. 😉
T J
T J
I am pretty sure that I can organize the Sion tape from a friend of mine living nearby – it will be a copy only, maybe a copy on DVD 😉
Cheers
Martin
Hi all
two-seater at Etampes 1974
3 Besides the RAF what other Commenwealth wher in North Africa and Libya
Rob
there were RNZAF, SAAF and RAAF units (attached to and operational with RAF) in that theatre. Also a Polish outfit (“Skalski’s Circus”) operated Spitfires under RAF control.
from memory:
No. 5 Sqdn (SAAF)
No. 3 Sqdn (RAAF)
No. 450 Sqdn (RAAF)
there were more.
Martin
😎
and some