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  • in reply to: WW2 B17 pic #1617632
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    That’s a RAF Liberator II (AL-serial range) whereof some were requisitioned by the USAAF and used as bombers / transports.

    http://home.att.net/~jbaugher2/b24_5.html

    Martin / Swiss Mustangs

    in reply to: A handful of 609 Squadron photos #1617704
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    ouch !

    does PR-U mean “Prang Research Unit” ?

    hmmmmm…
    Martin

    in reply to: Ad Hominem #1978147
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    Dutchy – your ballpark

    in reply to: Ad Hominem #1978159
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    dunno…

    in reply to: Ad Hominem #1978171
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    Some tutorial:

    Translated from Latin to English, “Ad Hominem” means “against the man” or “against the person.”

    An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument. Typically, this fallacy involves two steps. First, an attack against the character of person making the claim, her circumstances, or her actions is made (or the character, circumstances, or actions of the person reporting the claim). Second, this attack is taken to be evidence against the claim or argument the person in question is making (or presenting). This type of “argument” has the following form:

    1. Person A makes claim X.
    2. Person B makes an attack on person A.
    3. Therefore A’s claim is false.

    The reason why an Ad Hominem (of any kind) is a fallacy is that the character, circumstances, or actions of a person do not (in most cases) have a bearing on the truth or falsity of the claim being made (or the quality of the argument being made).

    Martin

    in reply to: WW2 B17 pic #1790233
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    Hi – this was standard post VE-Day – the application of so-called “Buzz-Numbers” to identify stunting pilots. Well known on fighter aircraft types, but it’s not often documented on bomber ships.

    Thanks for sharing !

    Oh – and it’s a B-17G from the 100th BG, 349th BS

    check here:

    http://www.web-birds.com/8th/100/100.html

    with similar shots:

    http://www.web-birds.com/8th/100/sterling-07.jpg

    Cheers
    Martin

    in reply to: Ad Hominem #1978592
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    Some sort of British Humor we from the Continent don’t really are meant to understand

    in reply to: Tfc P-39 #1791380
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    Terrific !

    Thanks a bunch for sharing these !

    Martin

    in reply to: BOLIVIAN B17's #1791492
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    thanks for the offer of any pics

    @ go4b17

    I should have some photographs / slides gathering dust in my collection – will ferret them out asap.

    Cheers
    Martin

    in reply to: Tfc P-39 #1791938
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    Correct

    http://www.fighter-collection.com/p-39q/

    Martin / Swiss Mustangs

    in reply to: Very unusual Mustang #1794741
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    Hi

    Yes, correct – that’s NACA-127

    http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/Gallery/Photo/P-51/Small/EC00-0277-3.jpg

    this was 44-84900 – and it never landed on a carrier !

    check this link:

    http://www.mustangsmustangs.net/p-51/survivors/pages/44-84900.shtml

    Martin / Swiss Mustangs

    in reply to: Very unusual Mustang #1795611
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    Hi all

    we are talking about the ‘Seahorse’

    Factory fresh P-51D-5-NA 44-14017 never saw active duty with the USAAF, it was assigned to NACA where it was registered as #102. The IAR mentiones the date of assignment as 23th June 1944. On 16th September 1944, this aircraft was loaned to the USN for a concept in using US Army figthers aboard USN aircraft carriers. The Navy issued BuAer No. 57987 for that purpose.

    Lt Bob Elder, a veteran with many missions 1942 – 1943 and now test pilot at Mustin Field (NAS Philadelphia), was the daring pilot to land the first ever US Army plane (i.e. this P-51D) on an aircraft carrier.

    The P-51D was factory-stock, the only change was the installation of a tail hook behind the Mustang’s tail wheel. The gun-ports and the gun-camera-openings also were temporarily taped over. Elder took off from NAS Norfolk, VA, on 15th November 1944 and arrived over USS Shangri La (CV-38) after 1 hour and 45 minutes. He landed his plane succesfully and later that day launched from the carrier again and returned to NAS Norfolk.

    Although this trial was succesful, the Navy decided against any further trials.
    Bob Elder mentioned the critical margin on final approach between stall speed and a potential snap roll from sudden acceleration was only five knots !

    After removal of the tail-hook 44-14017 was returned to NACA where it finally was applied the number 102 and was used for various tests between 18th January 1945 and 5th June 1952. The Mustang then was declared surplus and eventually salvaged/scrapped.

    There was a good article in WINGS Vol 31 No 6 December 2001, on Bob Elder and his career, with two photos and a nice two-page artwork (as posted by PapaLima above). Should be available as back-issue.

    HTH
    Martin / Swiss Mustangs

    in reply to: F-WGML pics #1800985
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    Daz

    here’s a quick scan of one of the slides that soon will be yours…. 😉

    Cordially
    Martin / Swiss Mustangs

    in reply to: F-WGML pics #1801997
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    Hi DazDaMan

    I have taken a bunch of slides three (or is it four ? :confused: ) years ago at La Ferté Alais. Please PM me your postal address and I will send you some.

    Cheers
    Martin / Swiss Mustangs

    in reply to: 152 Sqn (Black Panther) Spits #1804756
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    Another nice one

    Martin / Swiss Mustangs

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