thats brilliant :)and the perfect date too cheers all 😀
many thanks, just what i needed, i know that towards the end of their careers they were painted that blue gray colour, but during the 70’s would they be painted in a camoflage scheme?
hey thanks anyway, i shall see if i can find that video you mentioned 🙂
Ben
that was the official reply from the prime ministers office in reference to a petition that has been on the downing street petition site for a while, i signed up to it and after it closed, that was the reply from the office of the prime minister :rolleyes:
that was the official reply from the prime ministers office in reference to a petition that has been on the downing street petition site for a while, i signed up to it and after it closed, that was the reply from the office of the prime minister :rolleyes:
Government Response….
just had an email from the downing street petition website
“The e-petition asking the Prime Minister to “to Allow the Red Arrows to Fly at the 2012 Olympics” is ongoing. This is a response in advance of the closing date from the Government.
It is not true to suggest that the Government has banned the Red Arrows from celebrations to mark the London 2012 Olympic and Paralympic Games.
The organising committee of London 2012 will decide what to include in the celebrations – but with five years to go, decisions are yet to be made on what the celebrations will look like, although you can be assured that they will be a spectacular showcase of Britain’s best.
Further Information”
think what you will, but still ….
Government Response….
just had an email from the downing street petition website
“The e-petition asking the Prime Minister to “to Allow the Red Arrows to Fly at the 2012 Olympics” is ongoing. This is a response in advance of the closing date from the Government.
It is not true to suggest that the Government has banned the Red Arrows from celebrations to mark the London 2012 Olympic and Paralympic Games.
The organising committee of London 2012 will decide what to include in the celebrations – but with five years to go, decisions are yet to be made on what the celebrations will look like, although you can be assured that they will be a spectacular showcase of Britain’s best.
Further Information”
think what you will, but still ….
that company are also selling the hunter at preddanack! they both look a bit worse for wear, to say the least 🙁
what would be amazing, would be to see K7 fulfill her destiny and do what she was designed to do, just need to find someone mad enough to try driving a boat at over 300mph 😀
Im game, any other takers?
a wessex isn’t that much larger than a whirlygig is it? and XJ729 was still flying in NI up until summer, i think?
Maybe I am incorrect, but I suspect any autopilot and/or terrain proximity system can be ignored, and thus “deliberately” over-ridden. They provide warnings to prevent an accident, but if the warnings are ignored, then an accident is still possible?
Likewise, a computer controlled FBW system may not prevent you doing something inherently dangerous, all it will do is ensure that the aircraft can be flown to it’s maximum performance in the situation without departing from controlled flight. However, if you can apply sufficient bank to dig the wing tip into the dirt without first stalling the aircraft first, I suspect the FBW might let you – or are such systems clever enough to know the exact height of the wingtip above the ground and also able to predict the position and height of any non-permanent obstacles on the airfield?
I doubt the FBW has the ability to predict engine failure due to bird strike, or to predict wind shear or wind shift. In such circumstances the outcome will be the same, the FBW will do it’s best to maximise performance after the event has ocurred, such as to achieve max climb performance if requested by control input, whilst limiting bank to avoid stall/spin entry etc, but if the aircraft is too low or too slow to recover, it may still hit the ground.
It’s a bit like trusting to your ABS when tail-gating on a motorway at 70mph – the ABS will ensure the car stops in the minimum possible distance at any speed, however, that stopping distance will increase with speed (basic laws of physics apply regardless of ABS). So if the ABS can stop the car in say 100 yards at 70mph, and you choose to drive at that speed but at less than 100 yards behind the car in front than you will still hit it if it stops suddenly, all the ABS will do is ensure that you will be hitting it at the slowest possible speed when you reach it.
Likewise, if the Airbus is being flown lower than the operating limit of the FBW would expect, then perhaps sufficient angle of bank could be applied to get the wingtip into the dirt or into an obstacle. Or, if wind speed suddenly dropped by 10mph due to gusting, or an engine failed due to bird strike, then FBW may not be able to compensate for the loss in airspeed or the sudden assymetric thrust before some part of the plane touches the ground – at which point it all gets very unpleasant.
If I am wrong, and FBW really does make the aircraft “idiot proof” and “crash proof” please correct me, but all I believe it does is ensure an aircraft can be safely operated to it’s absolute max performance in any situation. However, if that situation is changed by unexpected external influences, then the FBW may not be able to “re-optimise” things back to the new “maximum performance” as adjusted to suit the new conditions, before the aircraft runs out of height and/or airspeed and hits the ground?
Paul F
im sure there are people out there who know more than i do about airbus systems, i did some work experience with airbus a year or two back, and a senior-ish chap explained that all of the pilots command inputs go through the computer, none of his controls are “Directly” linked to any of the surfaces/ engines. he makes a movement or change in throttle etc and the autopilot computer decides whether or not to allow him to make that manouvre, taking into context altitude, ground speed etc. i seem to remember the incident wher the airbus ended up in the trees, was a glitch in the autopilot program, where it thought the pilot was landing, when he was just doing a low pass, and it wouldn’t allow him to apply full throttle to climb, so in the trees he went 🙁
B-52 Insanity…
i know it ended in tragedy, and that the aircraft were being pushed far beyond what they should be allowed to do, but its unbelievable to see a B-52 being flown like that!!! the airbus thing is amazing, im only amazed that the permanent autopilot allowed the pilot to manouvre the aircraft like that! 😮
bruce, aren’t there a couple of mosquito’s at your place??? 😀
there is one brigand left im sure, at least a fuselage is left ive seen it somewhere 🙂
hi labmbert, i went to cosford not a week ago, here is the link to my photos that i took, i hope you find them of use.
Regards
Ben