Cheers Ollie1
That’ll be why it went for 205 quid then!! Wonder if Ian_ spotted it??? Nice picture by the way.
Martyn
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Interesting ‘Grip’ looks more like a PTO/aux drive control for a piece of MT or GSE??
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Hi All,
Vulcan B2 grip, anybody?
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Hi Tony,
Indeed, I remember seeing it and bidding on it too! I originally thought it may be from a Harrier development, it was not until the price went above and beyond my meagre funds did I start wondering……I still have a couple of the pictures (from the days when you could snaffle them off e-bay!), I used to keep hold of them as a sort of memento of all bids lost and gained and to keep a library! Still, it ended up in very safe hands, although sadly not mine on that occasion. Thanks for posting the picture all the same.
Martyn
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Indeed, I agree with both Ian and FB, if there is a favourite within one’s collection, for what ever reason, then this is the place to show off your pride and joy. But, as both mentioned above, it is the sharing of information and knowledge to other like minded individuals that has perhaps stretched the content from the threads original title to where it is now I suppose.
I had tried to post this last night but my steam driven computer let me down! However, here is a picture of both styles of the B(I)8/12/58 yokes and a T4 in the middle with the interdictor grip top to illustrate the slight differences in size re. my earlier post. The plastic coated one is at the bottom.
Another good link for all things Canberra is this too. http://ipmscanberrasig.webs.com/apps/photos/ It is a modelling site but, there are a lot of good pictures and illustrations from a number of the plot’s notes.
Martyn
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Hi Ian,
Canberra yokes are quite fun! Referring back to the link you posted and AM’s original queries in that post, the ‘plain – straight/upright’ horned yokes were indeed the most common style fitted to most mark of Canberra with minor switch variations. The style with the inward inclined horns, were used on the T4’s – there are slight variations with them too and they are about an inch or so narrower than the bomber yoke. T4 Aircraft assigned to the Interdictor squadrons had a ‘Field modification’ to remove part of the right hand handle (left hand on the instructors yoke) and fit a switch assembly atop similar to the AC14292 grip top.
However, the changes to the original ‘Bomber’ yoke came about from the Canberra’s low level Interdictor role; hence the ‘AC14292’ general purpose interdictor grip with more switch functions being fitted to what appears to be three quarters of a T4 yoke! These yokes came with both a plastic covering and a plain non-covered/painted style and used with the B(I)8, B(I)12 and B(I)58 respectively. (I think the plain plastic covering was used in earlier examples/fitment, my pilots notes for the B(I)8 show a plain example, certainly not covered with the ‘Dunlop’ crinkle finish but, I may be wrong and open to ridicule and humiliation where appropriate).
The other two pictures AM shows, are for the last/late style ‘new improved ergonomically crafted’ Bomber/Interdictor/Strike yoke as fitted originally on the B15 and B16, these being the last bomber variants (RAF) and therefore demonstrate a leap forward in pilot comfort and design. With the demise of the Canberra Strike Force a number of B15’s were converted to E15 and therefore the original yoke utilised. The difference in switches on the column in AM’s pictures again may be down to the re-role of B15 to E15 (?).
This style of yoke was also used on the B(I)6 which, was the interim interdictor version before the full introduction of the B(I)8 into RAF service. Not sure why it wasn’t used for the ‘8’ though! Then came the PR9 yoke and exports varients which used variations of the above!
Fellow forumite FMk6John has some cracking photos of the yoke/column of B(I)8 (mod) WV787 at Newark and there are a couple of grainy shots of WT346’s column, (sadly for us at this end of the globe, is now in New Zealand), on the late Les Bywaters ‘Canberra’ website, both illustrate the plastic covering to the 8’s yoke.
Martyn,
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Your Neptune yoke looks lovely, Swifter, although we’re not supposed to advertise on the forum! Fly.Buy, I have the same problem as you but never looked hard enough to solve it. I think the loose yokes we got are wrong for a B(1)8, looking at the images here, and a couple at jumbles, the yoke should have the Dunlop crinkle finish rather than the strange un removable preservative on ours. This gives a better idea: http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?79892-Questions-for-the-Canberra-experts
Hi FB
The early B2’s and the BI 8’s had a plain blanking cap, literally a flat piece of ally and four small screws holding it down! This later changed to a slightly more complicated ‘bung’. The PR7 column and yoke I have, has a single press button, fixed through a flat plate again. I will dig it out and take a closer picture for you unless you can see enough from this picture?
Martyn
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Spot on Martyn, a bit like a German Whirlwind! The grip has something of the Samm Mirage/Jag style.
Perhaps with a little hint of the early Harrier grip too?? (were they Dowty or Dunlop??)
M
Ahh! One of Kurt Tank’s least successful ventures, the FW 187. Lost out to the Me 110 didn’t it? Still, I agree with you Ian, the grip is rather nice.
Martyn
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My initial thought was another obvious AVRO design, the ‘Manchester’ however, given F.B’s interests, the duplicated blind flying panels; also no throttle pedestal in the (clever) pictures, I would side also with JDH1976 and err toward the York too?
Martyn
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Hi Nick,
That is interesting to know about the different ’57 yokes, mine came from an EB57 55-4242 via a well known aviation historian/dealer (well, well known to Ian and I at least!), a few years ago. Would the two different sizes relate to front/rear position or earlier airframes? I have added a picture of mine anyhow, the centre inner diameter measures 57mm and the boss length is 60mm. I will contact Nick Louis in the meantime.
Cheers,
Martyn
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Hello Nick,
Glad to see that you have re-established contact again! That P38 yoke restoration is excellent. Do you have much trouble finding spares? I must confess to mainly collecting stick tops but have had a few yokes in the past. I now only have several different variations of Canberra yokes, (about six in total I think) including a B57 however, it is missing the centre cap (no shocks). Are these centre caps available/easy to come by on your side of the pond?
Regards,
Martyn
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Hi Swifter,
Welcome to the club! I think that the P38 yoke you have, is the most comfortable and ergonomic yoke used in any aircraft. I would love to have one! We would also love to see more of your collection too, in your own time of course.
Regards,
Martyn
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Hi,
I am looking to buy a Lightning control grip, if anyone can help please let me know…..
Hi LTF-liney,
This one went on E(vil)-Bay last week! 390661032231. Fair price too, although ‘tired’ still made a fair and a good round about price! It all depends on condition, provenance etc. but be prepared to think of parting with at least that amount for one. They are out there and perhaps not as rare as you may think. Obviously, a private arrangement may secure one slightly less but, keep looking.
Regards,
Martyn
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Ian,
Iv’e trod quite a few stamping grounds in my time! Any other clues clues, near St.A or Llandow perhaps?? Lovely find by the way.
M