Fwiw, I think the T-50’s bay doors are significantly wider than the S-37’s (i.e. the latter’s modified test bay is not a T-50 scale replica- it was probably down-sized to fit the S-37’s internal structure, and still protrudes somewhat).

Hence, 3 R-77Ms (staggered) should be feasible.

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Those guys look suspicious:

I believe there are two versions of the KS-172, the long-body one does not fit for sure, I don’t know about the other. As for the second part, the lack of stealth would not be a problem only versus a non-AWACS equipped adversary I presume. Also, what happens to the pylons after launch? Would they be jettisoned too? Does not sound very practical. I would assume that external payload would only be carried when stealth is not necessary.

Also, much would depend on tactics. The PAK-FA could operate in conjunction with the Su-35BM- which could probably carry at least 3 KS-172s (and still leave 10 pylons available), with the latter acting as a missile platform DL-ed to it’s stealth stablemate.

PAK-FA’s primary AA weapon will probably become the Ramjet R-77, hence the stand-off range of the KS-172 will suite the non-stealth carriers moreso.

Hmmm … to be honest … looks very much “scrambled” and IMO if the launcher’s shown can not be replaced by others that could carry more R-77’s I think the bay is only large enough to hold two missiles each ! 🙁

Deino :confused:

Don’t be sad, Deino. IIrc, your track record accuracy on PAK-FA predictions/educated guesses/deductive reasoning, stands at ~0.0%.

…Длиной примерно в 4,7 метра и шириной более 1 метра, каждый из отсеков может вместить две большие ракеты (“воздух-воздух” большой дальности тип 810 или “воздух-земля” Х-38М, или противорадарные Х-58УШК), или же три ракеты «воздух-воздух» средней дальности К-77М.

…with a length of approximately 4.7 metres and width greater than 1 metre, each of these bays can accomodate 2 large missiles (“Air-to-Air, Long-Range of the type [Izd] 810 or “Air-to-Surface” X-38M, or “Anti-Radar” X-58YShK),
or 3 missiles “Air-to-Air”, medium ranged K-77Ms.

http://www.airforce.ru/articles/pak_fa/pak_fa.htm

The S-37’s test-bay is not as wide as the T-50’s.

Maybe both?

Possible developments to come (?):

Технология невидимки “стелс” означает: самолет должен излучать как можно меньше тепла и нести на себе минимум металла. Поэтому закрывают сопла и лопатки двигателей, используют композитные материалы.

‘Invisible’ stealth technology requires: that the aircraft emits as little a heat signature as possible and incorporates a minimum amount of metal [in its construction]. That is why the engines’ nozzles and fan blades are concealed, using composite materials.

http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=343078&photo_id=404011&p=1&fr=0

Possible L-band location?

The T-50 does have more interesting secrets….

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Anyways, one can see that the rhomboid ‘hatch’ from the sides of the T50’s nose doesn’t have the same color of the rest of the airframe 🙂

This is a different material, most likely fiberglass 🙂 for the radar arrays,but the nosecone is just painted as the rest of the airframe 🙂

You mean a side-array (in Blue)? I would have thought location (in Red) would have been more suitable, for the X-band.

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Imho, the location behind the LEVCON (in Green) will house the L-band, it was sort of alluded to in that ‘Vesti’ news animation.

C/o QuadroFX:

“Практически, это самолет-невидимка”, – сказал Н.Макаров на пресс- конференции в Москве, рассказывая о характеристиках перспективного авиационного комплекса фронтовой авиации.
По его словам, для уменьшения заметности все вооружение находится внутри самолета, в фюзеляже и внутри крыльев.

“This aircraft is practically invisible [to radar]”- said N. Makarov (some Air Force big-wig), at a news conference in Moscow, talking about the characteristics of the PAK-FA.
According to his words, in order to reduce it’s radar signature, all weapons are carried inside the aircraft, in the fuselage and inside the wings…

Official confirmation of those underwing ‘stealth pods’ (?)

I hadn’t noticed the degree of the VLO faceting of the intake ‘trunks’ before. Which begs the question, what are they going to do with the rounded bare engine metal areas? Bolt on the RAM, or is it a works in progress?

Yeah, well this frameless canopy has the best visibility of all: