Absolute correct. :diablo:
The Irbis-E spots ‘super-low-observable’ threats with the 0.01 sq.m RCS out
at 90 km. 😎
What are the related data for APG-77 or CAPTOR? 😀

Clearly NOT 90km- :dev2:going:eek:by:pyour:D’data’:rolleyes: (no exponential curves reqd.)

The IAF is an interesting case in point in that it will receive/has received the Eurofighter trench3 tender proposals, which will be trickling into service (if it wins) when the Su-30MKI will be entering it’s MLU.

The MLU will consist of BARS AESA, uprated engines (117C?), & PAK-FA-MKI AA weapons- hence the IAF is perfectly placed to see how the 2 planes measure up. One can logically expect the RuAF’s ’35BMs not to be far-off the upgraded ’30MKIs capabilities.

In the mean time, let’s see what hard ‘data’ can be gleened from Su-30MKI’s participation in ‘Red Flag’ Exercises, not to mention Farnborough for the BM.

Stopped making stuff up.

Time to burn your little red book buddy. The Real World is sometimes shocking, but always more interesting.

Oh if the PLAAF placed an order, for say, 60 Su-35s would you still feel the same about J-11’s ‘capabilities’? Huh, would you buddy?
J-11 is not even close to Su-30MKI/MKM.

Btw, that cockpit looks ridiculous.

The main area where China is lagging is engines, not radar, where the difference is not that great and reducing rapidly.

So the WS-10A is neither powerful & reliable enough for J-10 (chinese chief test pilot’s words), but it’s ok for J-11?

A pirated planar-array ‘Zhuk’ from the early 90s shoe-horned onto the J-11 is close in capability to the Irbis-E?

Iirc, Jane’s reported some years ago that MiG was heavily involved in china’s next-gen. fighter with heavy 1.42 input, time will tell- no doubt.
Oh, why is TsAGI contractually working on 2 chinese fighters if china’s industry is so advanced. I mean, by now they should be well versed on prince charlie’s CFD packages right?

J-11 is closer to ’27SM, not even the same league as ’35BM, the closest capability analogy I would make is like comparing an F-18C to the Super Hornet.

As for 10 years from now, who still cares about flankers? It should be all about 5th generation plane.

Can a chinese rip-off of a MiG 1.44 be classed as 5G?….it’s Lavi all over again!

According the interview with the Su-35 test pilot max range on internal fuel might be 4500 km (without tanks) it was posted earlier in this thread.

The pilot was quoted as saying (paraphrase) “the 20% increase in fuel validated [in flight-tests] a flight (ferry) range upto 4,500km” (without drop-tanks).

http://arms-tass.su/?page=article&aid=56907&cid=24

I would like to know why they used canards for a while but now more or less returned to the original Suchoi 27 looking.

They moved the Cg and incorporated a much more sophisticated FCS & software (accounting for TVC also)- probable fore-runners to PAK-FA systems.

You rarely carry more than 8 missiles. Actually more is waste,…

By the way, what is the finest 4th generation fighter? :confused:
Those I know all come out at considerably less than 15t OEW.

Unless your heavyweight fighter (Su-35) is doing the job of 2 mediumweights (Typhoon). I’ll leave the operating costs to you, but from where I’m standing- no calculus required.

As for finest, I guess Irkut’s Su-30 order book is just one giant fabrication, and the respective evaluation teams are imbeciles.