One interesting spin is that the MiG-E is rumored to be based around a single AL-41 (or derivative). It is also rumored to be a canard delta. Would be interesting to see how it will compare with the J-10 in looks and performance.

It amazes me that Star has not been banned, he manages to trash every thread he enters and frankly talks nothing but rubbish.:mad:

I second that. maybe if we get enough votes the mods just might.

How about don’t let anyone of tamil origin near the radar site? A bit racy but is there any other way?

Hyperwarp, you should go and do something about this… perhaps get one of those small commercial radars that has a usb plug and play feature and a nvg.

F-23
TSR-2
T-4 (Su-100)
Avro Arrow

I also wish they really made a good replacement for the Su-24.

Really sad. I don’t live far off – i go to a university in virginia as well – we had a special notice about it, in fact. May the innocent rest in peace. I would also like to pray for all the Iraqis murdered by trigger happy american troops in Iraq. Literally murdering people on a whim. I wish forum members would not turn a blind eye to that, just because they are Iraqi or Muslim doesn’t mean they are less than human.

It will have to be Grifo technicians, with the help of Pakistani and Chinese technicians.

As if the embargo has stopped European radars before…not. Ironically the most blatent “offender” was…Britain. Not only did they ship maritime patrol radars, but remember, the radar on the F-7MG prototype was a Super Skyranger.

Grifos had been displayed in Chinese defense exhibitions, and it appears they are not just aiming for the Pakistan market, but also on the Chinese side.

SD-10 probably won’t be integrated with Grifo. because that would mean sharing confidential information with the Italians. The most likely is a third party, and that’s likely to be the R-Darters from South Africa.

Not really. Pakistan is serious in rewarding Grifo for supporting them, having their radars on Mirage III and F-7P/PG. Grifo is also eyeing the F-16 upgrade market.

On the other hand, I think in the end, all the JF-17s will come with Chinese radars, nonetheless.

One key element is Pakistan wants full TOT with their western radar, so they can play around with it themselves. That tends to open up the closed loop logic of China not wanting to share SD-10s ins and outs with italians. Pakistan will also be getting full documentation with the JF-17s so that simplifies integration even further. Or so I think 😀

No, I think, SA-17 Buk should be the next step, …to punish agressor planes.

You may be right, I am definitely not the Russian SAM expert here 😀

Just to humor you, how about if they just went for an S-400 instead? I mean, why blow up something 30 km away when you can do the same at 3 times that range?