Ah but does the Fokker 27 have the same STOL capability as say the HS748? I know that i am slightly biased here…

Yes it has. I can’t finr the length required for landing/take-offs though. I got a book back at my parents place, bu’t not here so can’t look it up. It’s definately STOL though!

I will be going by car.

park the car at Hatton Cross station and walk further. The parking restrictions are strict and enforced!

Nice pics… Aero Flight is, to all intents and purposes, the limited reincarnation of Aero Lloyd.

Andy

I should sue you for plagiarism! You even used the same wording! :dev2:

By my latest count I got around 570 seperate entries excluding biz/private jets but including a very small amount of military and FLYING preserved planes. The NON-FLYING preserved planes have been left out. The photos have been shot at AMS, LHR, LGW, STN, LTN, DUS, EIN, CGN, NRN, SXF, BRU, CDG, Le Bourget, Farnborough, Rotterdam, Woensdrecht and Lelystad.

I was surprised actually to see just how many airlines I had that where no more. I’ll just list them and if you want the whole list just send me a PM or E-mail.

ABA Air
Aegean Aviation (merged with Cronus Airways to form Aegean Cronus)
Aer Lingus Commuter
Aero Lloyd
AeroLyon
Aigle Azur
Air Alfa
Air Bosna
Air Engiadina
Air France/Gill Airways
Air Holland
Air Littoral
Air Nordic
Air UK
Air Universal
Anatolia
Armenian Airways (the original one)
Bellview
Buzz (flew them twice, great little airline)
Canada 3000
City Airline
City Bird
Crossair
Crossair Europa
Donavia (prior to takeover by Aeroflot)
Electra
Euralair
Eurosun
Euroceltic
Flash Airlines (got the one that crashed)
Gandalf
Interflug (good old days)
Istanbul Airlines
JMC
KLM Alps
KLM UK
Lina Congo
Palestinian Airways (are they still around?)
SABENA
SAS/Air Botnia
Schreiner Cargo
Shorouk
Skynet
Sobelair
Swissair
Swisswings (can’t have lasted more than 3 months?)
Taftan (did they even get to do a single flight?)
Vnukovo

There are probably more airlines on my complete list that I do not even realise that have gone bankrupt. Probably a handful of Turkish ones at least! 😉

Like NWA for example buying up a load of DC-9’s?

That’s different, they still had them when NW bought more 2nd hand DC-9s.

But for KLM to revert back to a fleet that has already been fased out to replace the more modern version is quite different. Especially since the DC-10 is no longer being made, and the landing charges at AMS for the ´10 are astronomical. If you thought the enviro lobby in the UK was strict, try living here for a while.

In any case, you still have to hand over a source. I have not seen or heard anything about it and I got the added benefit of knowing Dutch and regularly speaking KLM employees.

maybe because the maintenance fascilities are at LHR, also if the plane requires maintenance it is probably easier to arrange for a replacement plane at LHR then at PIK or MAN

KLM apparently want rid of theirs [the MD-11s]… they want DC-10s instead!!

I would LOVE to know where you found out the information that they want DC-10s. I have not heard anything about that in the Netherlands, neither in the official information nor in the gossip. The MD-11s have a few years left at KLM, and afterwards there’s a good chance they go to Martinair for cargo flights.

You are right they want to dispose of the MD-11s in a few years. The 767s are first to go though as the first leases expire next year. The replacement will be the A330s that have already been ordered, the first of which will be delivered around september or october next year.

Alitalia hopes to purchase 7 Boeing long-haul aircraft and 12 Embraer medium-haul aircraft in 2007 and 2008

Will this order be placed in 2007/08 with delivery later on, or will this order be placed now (or at least soon) for delivery in 2007/08? That’s a large difference!