I’m going to start the International Fuselage Owners Club this is only open to people who own airframes without cockpits, our mascot will be a headless chicken…….
Any takers? :p
actually looking for T.11 control column gaiters to finish off our Vamp T.11 (which used to be Stuarts- gawd its a small world!) can anyone help?
All t best
TT
I might have one attached to my Vampire column (which is for sale too!!!)
keep them coming chaps….looking good this virtual museum…best if we go for items we actually have some ownership in….otherwise as a taxpayer I could claim some Hurris, Spits and a Lanc!!!
I’m not a cockpit owner (other than being a member of MAM!) but would like to pose a question. What can/do cockpit owners/restorers do about the many tiny explosive devices often installed in ex-military cockpits?
I went to a BAPC “Stopping The Rot” seminar many years ago and was amazed when one of the speakers (H&S ??) talked about this and said something like “the Canberra cockpit, for example, has ** minute explosive devices in it”. ** was 50+ or 150+ – I wish I could remember the figure.
Can anyone comment?
Roger Smith.
Luckily demilitarisation of cockpits/aircraft mean this should not be an issue now. The Canberra has nastys in the canopy bolts, but these are removed.
The things that are worrying are the drogue gun and barostat timing release unit on the side of the ejection seat. The idea with the BTRU is that after ejection the capsule ‘waits’ until the seat is below 10000ft and then a timed clock then releases a large bolt after a predetermined time. The bolt shoots 4 inches and then pushes a release plunger that releases the harness and occupant from the seat (as well as chutes etc). The idea is that if someone ejects on high, you want him or her to fall quicker to lower warmer levels quickly before floating down on the chute.
In order to keep the seat looking complete, the BTRU bolt would have to be retracted (i.e. armed or the bolt reduced in size). These BTRU’s do not have any explosive but are scary when they go!
The drogue gun should be disarmed…never seen a live one except in service!
There are seat cartridges…..
My suggestion is that if anyone has anything they have a worry about, post it here and someone will come round and help/advise. We have cockpit owners all over the UK (and world!)
Well said and documented Gordo. Thanx.
I am particularly touched by the bit about false hopes. My Mum can easily be reduced to tears by watching the video of the last Concorde landing for the last time.
She was delighted to hear of a group that said they could get one back in the air. Her well qualified flight test engineer son had to tell her that there was not a hope……
A group setting impossible aims, raising hopes that can never be fulfilled is worse than no group whatsoever….
Beechcraft D.18s G-BKRN (Texantomcat)
BAC Lightning 53-671/ZF579 (mjr)
Blackburn Buccaneer S.2B XX889 (Buccsociety)
Boeing B-17 Cockpit section-reproduction (B-17man)
Boeing B-17 Radio room-reproduction (B-17man)
Consolidated B-24 Cockpit section-reproduction (B-17man)
de Havilland Hornet F.MK.1 Cockpit/Forward fuselage – reproduction (dcollins103)
de Havilland Vampire FB.MK.5 Cockpit – VZ193 (dcollins103)
de Havilland Vampire T. Mk 11 XD599 (Texantomcat)
de Havilland Vampire T. Mk 11 XH313 (Vampire)
English Electric Canberra PR.9 Nose/cockpit XH175 (RossMcNeill)
English Electric/BAC Lightning F.3 XP706 (Scott C)
Handley Page Halifax B Mk III cockpit reproduction (HP57)
Hawker Hurricane (Rocketeer)
Hawker Hunter F1 Nose/cockpit (Rocketeer)
Hawker Hunter F2 Nose/cockpit (Rocketeer)
Hawker Hunter F6 Nose/cockpit (Rocketeer)
Hawker Hunter T7 XL591 (mjr)
Hawker Typhoon Cockpit (Rocketeer)
Miles Messenger M.2a G-AKIN (Rocketeer)
North American AT-6-D-1-NT Texan G-TOMC (Texantomcat)
Supermarine Spitfire Cockpit (Rocketeer)
Supermarine Swift F7 Nose/cockpit (Rocketeer)
English Electric Canberra T4 WT486 nose/cockpit (sniperUK,2241sqn ATC)
Alas I do not own the Messenger!!
In the word of Flasheart,
‘I always feel more comfortable in a dress!’
Hairy
Tee hee!!!
I had a lovely pint of something very strong realalewise in the Jackdaw about 5 years ago…had duck in the title…throbbing duck?! Brewed by Eric and John on wednesdays nights in Sevenoaks!!!
Wanted to sit where our BoB lovebirds sat….it was apparently in the back as the light etc was not good elsewhere!!
Being practical,
Engineering support can be furnished from else where. However, a Design Authority has to underwrite all modifications, lifing, limitations and other facets of the aircraft. With something as complex as Concorde, that is no easy task, either in monetary or goodwill terms. I have not heard that Airbus or anyone else is willing in the press. Also, does BA not own most if not all of the contenders? Are they likely to give up ownership?
Liability, DA and funding are likely to not see this one rise any higher than on jacks…pity it may be.
I like many others would like to see a Concorde fly again, and a Vulcan come to think of it, but I am a realist.
very nice!
David, Just the instrument panel for the hornet or the rest of it as well ? Tony ,what planning !! seriously though, do you know anyone else with spitfire related “stuff” that might be forced ,sorry encouraged to display at cockpit fest; I did speak to Bill O sullivan a few weeks ago and he said he liked the idea of a spitfire related theme ,but conceded that cockpit wise ,it might be a bit thin ,but panels, seats, windscreen assy’s, controls etc there would be much more potential. What say you?
I will be bringing parts from my project, and planning a Science Museum esque type display on a smaller scale…with your Spit nearby or a s acentre piece? Others welcome to join in!! 🙂
Well done Dave…..my planning is in final stages now!
Many organisations can be kind and allow this. I take cockpits of jets around and let chappies sit in them.
When I was a boy noone would let me sit in their Spits etc…thats why I have cockpits. Suggest you take your chap to Newarks cockpitfest, Stuart will hopefully have his spit there and he sort of nice!!! (tee hee)…wake up Stuart! He will be able to sit in an array of aircraft
Churchill is a great hero of mine. I was aghast to start with….it has made people think. I find it disgusting that the tabloid press label anyone with the slight mental illness (which depression is) as a ‘nutter’ or ‘mad’, witness poor old Frank Bruno. It does not take much to provoke depression…..bereavement, stress, divorce, etc take your pick.
Getting the stigma taken out of depression is a great idea….however, a statue is a semi permanent item so this will be open to misinterpretation…more so in the future.
Churchill is a great hero of mine. I was aghast to start with….it has made people think. I find it disgusting that the tabloid press label anyone with the slight mental illness (which depression is) as a ‘nutter’ or ‘mad’, witness poor old Frank Bruno. It does not take much to provoke depression…..bereavement, stress, divorce, etc take your pick.
Getting the stigma taken out of depression is a great idea….however, a statue is a semi permanent item so this will be open to misinterpretation…more so in the future.
This is my Baby, but she will be sold in the Spring boo hoo!
This is my Baby, but she will be sold in the Spring boo hoo!