One more
Cees
Hey Cees,come over to cockpitFest and I’ll buy you a nice warm pint of Spitfire ale.
Hear hear J Boyle… however, he clearly didn’t bother to do any research into the state of what he was buying, so it is hardly surprising he’s being called names at this point.
Brian Bateson must be laughing like a drain by this point – hope he feels proud of himself.
Yes, but being called names by people who dont necessarily do their bit for aviation preservation is a bit rich and, personally would not bother me one jot! There are doers in this world and a whole legion of useless armchair critics who while away their useless time telling people how they should spend (and should have spent) their own money and whinging when those doers actually get up off their bottoms and do something, albeit a little misguided!
I take my hat off to him, yes he may have spent alot of money on this, but he had a go. In the end, the cockpit is restorable, worth saving and he will probably make much of his £15k back in scrap for the rest.
FAAM always nice as is Middle Wallop?
I used to have a couple of original crowbars – until I got an offer I could’nt refuse 😉 I have to say I feel they were more of a morale booster than serious escape tool – they were very light and made of hollow thin wall steel tube with solid ends, one of mine looked as though someone had tried to open a crate with it before thinking better of it. I think if I had been trapped the old one-piece escape axe would have been my preferred option!
Better chance of getting out of a Spitty than a Hunter. The Swiss bought export versions of the Hunter F4 and noted that the contract charged them for crowbars. When they quizzed Hawkers as to where these were, apparently they were told the bars were useless anyway.
The Swiss were (allegedly adamant). So HAC set up a cockpit and asked for the strongest Swiss pilot to be provided. After 1 3/4 hours all he had done was a hole about an inch! The Swiss said (allegedly) thatall very well, but weve paid for them so we want them!!
To my knowledge, only F1 & F2 aircraft carried them. Hence I have one in my F1 cockpit. The F4 still has the mounts (as does the F6 nose I have).
Looks to me like the Southampton Mk24
M
Well done that man….photo taken Thursday…….
BTW as Mark12 said note the lead balance weight….this was added to reduce high control forces during high g manouevres. The Tempest and Typhoon had a lead weight on the base of the column to increase stick force per g. The spade grip weight was not an elegant solution at all!
Bit of a delay on the reply Bruce.
Just one question for you Bruce if i may ask, was the original glass tinted on these ?.
Dave
Yes it was tinted! Dave are you open to commissions old chap? I need a frame 8 and a few other things for my project….please pm me
Oh and by the way, your work is EXCELLENT, fastidious and is on par with the best I have seen. I have a Sutton harness so will take some measurements for you
Sounds like Elliot is brokering the old Bernie Salter cockpit?
Rocketeer
Will there ever be another open day at the museum?
As for the Shar, I remember the day when it had its accident, are you painting it to look like a FRS1?, or are you deconverting it from a F/A2 to a FRS1?
Yes there will be another open day….hopefully this year. At the moment she will be painted in FRS1 guise. When she is finished, I will take some better shots and also put up the sad burnt shots
what is it?
what is it from?
what year?
Brisfit?
I have a set of canopies, a good main wheel tyre and instrument panel mounts apart from that no 🙂
Well done for posting those shots Colin, it is great to see what grass roots preservationists get up to. When my life has sorted itself out, I will have to come and provide a display down your way again!
Regards
TD 🙂
682al
No, just bemused that no one appears to mention this particular yard, which may or may not still contain stuff.
I deduce from the post about the £400 asking price for the Swift fuselage that it is extant (or at least until recently), but if no one seems interested in mounting an expedition (eg: perhaps someone in Wiltshire etc could take a look)… especially if it appears they were recipients for detritis from Boscombe.
As the other guy said, its a chore to dig out old pics, scan them & post them if no ones interested, hence i consider this subject closed.
Cheers…. 😀
Dave, once I get back on my feet I will hot foot it over there again to check. The Swift parts were not useable for my project. The rear most part of the fuz with XF113 had suffered terribly from souvenir hunters with machetes (they would not let me buy just that bit). I did fall off a rather high heap but where there is no sense there is no reason and I was unhurt! The Swift is an unsung hero of aviation. You know full well my ridiculous passion for saving lost causes, but I do not have endless cash to spend on parts I cannot use. (especially with my divorce). This is a superb thread. I have some phots of other yards which I hope to post after the weekend.
I would ask others to keep it going.
As you may be aware, TonyD holds the nose section of Swift F.7 XF113.
You may not be aware this was discovered in a yard nr Frome by Dr Robert Poulter who had is transported to his home nr Bath (along with his Seahawks) in the mid 80’s.
I visited this yard in ’87 and again in ’95, and the rear fuselage and (seperate) centre section of XF113 were still extant.
On my first visit it was still owned by the original family concern, and was full of wing sections, boxed & greased parts, wheels, tyres etc… the old chap even claimed he had TSR2 sections from Boscombe for scrapping !! (The Swift came from Boscombe also)
In ’95 it had become a car breakers, but the site was bigger than the (considerable) amount of cars they had, hence the ‘aeroplane’ parts hadn’t yet been touched or were likely to in the near future.
However, that was then, and now health & safety rules have affected car breakers etc… so questions i’d like to ask is: has anyone else heard of the place or can shed any light on its contents ? As i’ve not seen it mentioned to date.
Cheers….
oh p.s. No Tony isn’t interested in making his Swift whole again !
Dave is correct, apart from the last sentance, I went to see the sections in the yard tosee if anything was useful. Unfortunately most was bent and out of shape….besides they wanted £400 at that time.
Hope this comes out ok….whilst not strictly just a panel, it gives some idea of the stuff I do. It is quite a bad phot but 100kb is nt much to play with…there all my excuses out the way! :rolleyes:
Perhaps not quite what you wanted, Cees, but this is the results of “a good day down the scrapyard”. Circa 1980…. 😀
Any chance of some more photos of your lovely scrapyard grip finds 682Al me old?! 🙂