The stickers went over with the Corsair and were slapped on by Lee P in the week before the show. Brian Hore, co-owner of the Mustang seemd rather taken with the sticker so he may keep it on!
OFMC have always used the pin in the external power socket, which I rarely see on any of the others. Thats the flag hanging down.
Beat me to it Bruce! That is why I thought it was 434 but quite early on (and the fact that you can see the W/T and DTD stencils on the tail that very few Spitfires carried then). It was only JDK telling someone who suggested it was 434 that they ‘would have to try harder’. In my experience that means “no – you are wrong!”.
Originally posted by JDK
They weren’t always valuable you know!
They are not (comparitivley) valuable now either.
Privately owned WWII era warbirds generally do not have formal ‘fatigue lifed’ airframes. There are however componenents requiring overhaul at agreed time scehdules such as engines and props.
Originally posted by SteveYoung
I recall having our ATC camp photo taken in front of a lowback Spitfire gate guardian at RAF Hereford in 1984. Believe she was TD248, now airworthy at Duxford, can anyone confirm she was the one?
TD248 was the Sealand gate guardian (there is a current thread about her).
I preffered her as a Seafire FR47 😉
Whats all the fuss about? I watched Clive mask up for HA-C months back (in a public museum – hardly a ‘secret’).
Chris – lovely models but what shade of green are you using there? (Have you got a photo of the MK912 model?)
Originally posted by Dave Homewood
I understand it that gloss paint is often applied nowadays to warbirds because it lasts much longer, so is much more cost efficient for the owner. And it’s easier to maintain of course.
Dave, thats a very old fashioned notion and virtually all operators of WWII warbirds in the UK have now moved to satin finish paint over the last ten years. There was a myth that only gloss paint was durable enough to protect the airframe and that was why BBMF (for example) stuck with this finish for so long until it was realised that satin paint is just as durable, has a more authentic look to it and can be just as easily kept clean. Now even the Lanc is in satin and looking all the better for it.
WWII aircraft were generally of a matt appearance (with exceptions of course) but this really is very difficult to keep clean as its rougher surface texture absorbs oil, exhaust stains and grease and makes keeping the airframe clean virtually impossible. This finish can work for static museum airframes.
Ant, I agree – some wear and tear is inevitable but I draw the line at faking at as in the quoted movies.
Taifun – yes you are making a point with all this but fine, this is an enjoyable debate, just what this site is about.
I agree to some extent Taifun – but re-read my post, today it is about balance. To use your example, no the invasion stripes should not be in gloss paint but something more sympathetic to the period, matt or satin paint.
The fact remains that these aircraft are no longer fighting machines and faking combat scarring and allowing dirt to build up is not usually considered an option by those with the privelage of being able to decide.
I can see the point too but am not converted. There is a balance that needs to be struck between authenticity, practicality and presentation. As far as invasion stripes are concerned that means flat (or satin) paint and straight lines. A yard brush may have been used in 1944 but on a £1m warbird today that just looks like someone did not care.
As a one off, just for one show, I would not be averse to a display of ‘original’ invasion stripes – I’ll get the mop.
Originally posted by Janie
I also spotted an English Mustang owner, but his aeroplane was nowhere to be seen … possibly hiding?
That was a certain Mr Hammond, hardly recognisable without his trusty steed. What was it called?
Very nice pics Janie,to think we were both at the same place too:p
Originally posted by chuck yeager
With all the planes that have moved from the fighter collection
The only aircraft to have ‘moved’ out in the last 18 months is Tom Friedkins Spitfire 14 and the Skyraider. In that period we have seen the arrival of the Hurricane so the balance is fairly even. from the TFC website you can see that one or two projects are very close to completion so the opposite may well be the case by July plus whatever ‘surprises’ they spring on us.
I understand the hard runway will be ready by then, the grass is still in use. Dont miss the show.
She looks in much better shape in the1977 photo (apart from the fuselage roundel on steroids). I recall seeing her in a tent prior to this date which must have been put up around her for the re-paint.