I hope the new owner takes her to Oshkosh as she would almost certainly be in line for an award. Its about time a major restoration not carried out exclusivley in the US was recognised at Airventure.
How common would it be for a MK XIV spit to have the tail wheel locked down? and when done what happens to the gear doors?
You mean now or in WWII? These days it sometimes happens. If there is a problem with the retract mechanism and there is no time or parts to make an immediate repair you can disable the retract system and fly with the tail gear locked down. In these cases the usual treatment of the doors is to have them locked closed with a semi-circular cut-out in each door to fit tightly round the leg. If you look carefully at an old pair of doors you will often see these cut-outs filled in with a rivetted repair patch.
I wonder if there is a little BBMF mischief making going on here.:)
Anybody else share my view? ๐
I agree I think there is more to this than meets the eye ๐ Fluffy is a man with sense of humour so who knows what. Water soluble matt paint that reveals the ‘black’ scheme underneath?:p
BTW – what happened to the blue painted rectangles in the cowling photo in post #25?
Were factory-new paint schemes all matt finish? What type of paint was used?
As we are talking about Spitfires here I will stick to that type. Most Spitfires left the factory in a matt finish. However some were polished to increase their performance (DP845 perhaps?) either as ‘one-off’ test aircraft or sometimes in service, but generally the matt finish was the norm. In WWII both synthetic (the precurser to our modern 2-pack polyurethene paints) and nitro-cellulose based paints were used. Look on a Spitfire and you may see a stencil reading ‘DTD 308 C’, that stands for Directorate of Technical Development specification 308 Cellulose paint.
Shiny poly-plastic paints seem all the rage these days. Can be very swish and shiny, but undoubtedly high quality. Not necessarily right for fabric though?
Not sure where you get the idea that ‘shiny’ paint is the norm, thats all rather 1980’s – today we usually go for compromise and choose satin or eggshell finishes that are sympathetic to the historic look but are easier to maintain in good condition. Matt paint does tend to absorb marks and oil contamination and although this is an authentic appearance it is not always desirable from the owner/operators point of view. Cellulose paints are still the norm for fabric covered parts of the airframe (just the rudder and elevators on a Spitfire) but people have used 2-pack paints with a plasticing agent succesfully on fabric.
Nice piece of history there – thanks for posting ๐
cant win.:confused:
That’s ebay ๐
Has anyone ever recovered the top of one of these?
See PM!
No problem. Or you could leave in the www, and just change the ~dot~ to a ~commer~ so the link is there but disabled (if you see what i mean)
Cheers………;)
Not a good idea, they do not allow static or active links to other sites. Best to play by their rules.
The most confusing for me was closer look to the photographs. Roundel yellow on both aircraft photographs was very dark and shiny โ similarly to the fuselage band.
Gretza, the appearance of roundel yellow as a very dark colour in WWII photos is quite common, its something to do with the kind of film that was used and it gives this strange appearance to yellow edged roundels and leading adges. Its possible that the fuselage bands may have been in that colour too and came out dark on the photos. I would be quicker to suggest local over-painting of the band in the camou colour rather than red or yellow but it is possible. If its the same shade as the dark rendered fuselage roundel yellow then quite possibley it is the same colour.
Sad lookinf FS spit there. The beau looks good with progress showing with the landing gear installed. Any news on the mighty Victor and also has the shack had some repainting done recently?
Peter – the landing gear has been attached for years – its those huge outer wing sections that have just been fitted (and within the last few weeks had their leading edge structure added)!
The only ones I can think of are Charles Church’s EE606 and also AB910
Yes Tom, I had forgotten about 606 ‘The Ultimate Spitfire’ ๐
Paul,
You may well be right.
I recall that was the conclusion – the AP’s etc being full of references to ‘early aircraft’ but nothing specific to a, b, c etc. wings. Seems strange, but history is often like that. All this happened over a period of five years followed by a period of 65 years of reflection and revision.
Also EP120 has no Merlin 55 engine fitted at present,its in several pieces in the workshop having the supercharger looked at!!
True ๐
IIRC most Baby spits are fitted with a Merlin 35 which has a very high Mod.state.
Also true, thats why I put that in by mistake ๐
Thanks Bruce – corrected! ๐ฎ I was trying to use EP120 as an example of a ‘stock’ aircraft of which she is one of the best.
PS: Bruce – your PM box is full!
I heard that MH434 is in for an engine change. Will they fit a new 66 or wil it be another one?
I have another question to:
Is there any high performance spits flying today, more power, lighter than stock??I have heard Spit V EP120, but i dont know.
Welcome Treadstone, I find the wording of your post a bit confusing but I think I get the basic idea of the question. As far as I am aware the only Spitfire currently flying that has modifications fitted with the intent of increasing its performance is PR 19 PS890. When it was re-built at Chino an ex-Shackleton Griffon was installed driving a contra-rotating prop, the idea being that a shot at the โtime to climbโ record may be made. The aircraft also had flush clipped wings at that time. As far as all the other flying Spitfires are concerned, almost all of them are lighter than a 100% stock Spitfire on Squadron strength in WWII, this has been achieved by not fitting heavy stock equipment such as armour plate and guns, but this is usually done to save airframe strain, extend range and simplify construction rather than principally to gain additional speed performance. Similarly many Spitfires today are flying with Merlin or Griffon variants not precisely as the original wartime specification but this is done more on the basis of availability and reliability rather than increasing performance.
You mentioned EP120, this aircraft is one of the more โstockโ examples of a Spitfire and flies with a Merlin 55. When she was restored in 1995 a lot of effort was made to keep her as original as possible. I am not sure what Merlin is going in to MH434 though.