Guys,
http://www.qsl.net/pe1ngz/airforce/airforce-raf/raf-eureka-rebecca.html#Rebecca%20Mk%20I
a good site for BABS/Rebecca.
BABS Aerial
For Miggers,
All the Mk.1 Lancasters had the smaller astrodomes and the Aircam photo’s are no good in showing if it had the larger astrodome fitted later.
The rear fuselage hand-rail was the Beam Approach aerial (BABS) which was interrogated by Rebecca. My reckoning is that any Lanc with the nose Rebecca aerials fitted also had the rear fuselage BABS hand rail aerial. The Lorenz system was a German Beam system used for guide bombing so is technically different.
No,you are correct they had to guard the special equipment on board. It mean’t that nobody without authorisation was allowed anywhere near the aircraft.
I like the civil aviation from the fifties and sixties still a lot of info out there and i like the detective work on WW11 types i.e. The Lancaster thread. You often find things out on this forum that are not in books and official records.
Keep the forum going and the good humour and manners of the contributors.
Mr Clifton of Peterborough and Spalding Aviation used a Dragon Rapide G-AEMH and a Tiger Moth G-ADOK which i understand flew from a small airfield at Horsey Toll and Spalding,as well as Westwood. Would be grateful for any nostalgia tales of this era.
Picture of the crash memorial on this link :http://www.578squadron.org.uk/memorials/
It is an NF.30 as it has the thimble or Universal radar nose. What a great waste in those days !
The “G” suffix denoted that it had special equipment aboard for test, in this case probably Gee or Oboe for No.8 Group. The picture was taken from a Mosquito of 1409 flight piloted by Sqdn/Ldr N. Bicknell 14/7/44 at 15,500ft. The “G” suffix has been erased as has the original roundels which was in a non-standard position.The photograph was submitted by J.A.L.Currie (is it the famous No.12 Squadron pilot who has written a lot of Bomber books sadly now deceased ?)
I have the Aircam book No12 and it was published in 1970,by Osprey publications,and is still a gem on Lancaster information.
Squadron codes for LK834 were LK:E and MZ696 LK:K.
LK834 and MZ696 both of 578 Sqdn at RAF Burn collided at 2,000ft on return from Bottrop and crashed near Balkholme,Yorks 21.7.44.
It seems highly likely that the bomb/s are from these machines would be interesting to see what other artefacts may come too light.
Years ago i checked the ORB at Kew, for No 274 MU which stored Mossies at Oulton airfield as a No 119 Sub Storage site to RAF Swannington.
There were 65 aircraft at Oulton 2/46 reducing to 44 in 5/47. The MU closed in June 1947 and Oulton had 14 a/c flown out by 3 Ferry Pool in 8/47 and had 29 a/c being prepared for ferrying.
26 a/c left Oulton 10/47 having collected some from North Creake.The last 4 a/c left Oulton on 08/10/47.Oulton closed on 28/10/47, No 274 MU was wound up at Swannington in 11/47.
Most of the stored Mossies were PR.34/B.35 versions . I doubt if any were left although there may have been some spares. It might warrant further investigation although it could turn out to be discarded station furniture !
Hello Miggers and 682al, I started a rostered 12 hour day shift at 04:45hrs today hence the late reply.
The port side shows a flat panel i am not sure on the starb side as all Mk.1 Lanc’s did have side blisters fitted from the factory. The picture at 22 MU Silloth was taken when censorship of the H2S radome had probably stopped.
It seems the early serialled i.e. R serials Lancs had the Lorenz aerials fitted so highly unlikely to have been fitted.
The Lancaster does seem in all its variants and cross mods to promote lengthy debate which makes this forum pleasurable in helping one another.
I have Profile publication No 65 Avro Lancaster 1 by Garbett/Goulding. From the side profile and a couple of photo’s i can confirm the following details.
Paddle blade props,2 “Z” eye nose blister,square not oval under nose,short pitot on longeron,Rebecca aerials, no H2S radome,unshrouded exhausts and some sort of belly plate under the mid-upper turret position.
From late 44 most P-51’s carried the cigar tanks for extended strafing runs over Eastern and Southern Germany plus they were in plentiful supply.
Have you tried the RAF College Cranwell library ?