Bob,
Pleased you liked the photos. At least they didn’t show any mistakes in your model. I bet it would look good with the code letters outlined as per the photo.
Geoff.
just to remind you all:)
Hi Jerry,
I believe we corresponded many moons ago, when I was researching the history of 131 Sqdn?
Yes it is Ted.
Re NX-U, writing on the back of Cliff Rudland’s copy said it was done at Laval, though Le Mans was the airfield where 131 did the straffing.
Geoff.
Another photo from the same series. Needs a bit of a clean!
There’s always one that has to be different. MD183 in what I assume to be standard low-altitude colours, though whether the underside was repainted as well… The reason for the change may have been the fact that the squadron’s Mk VIIs saw little use at high-altitude, operating as ‘normal’ Spitfires. Don’t know if any more of the 131 sqdn VIIs underwent the same change.
I’ve no idea when the change was made. MD183 was delivered new to the squadron, and there’s nothing on the Movement card to indicate it went to an MU etc. for repair and was repainted at the same time, not that that means it didn’t! Possible date for the photo is 24/8/44 when one of the squadron’s VIIs was flown for the press.
Another view of MD120, note the added outlining of the code letters, a nice touch, but did it aid readability of the light codes against the light camouflage?
The Mk VIIs all arrived brand new, and without sqdn markings. If only we could read the stores number on the paint tin, we could answer DOUGHNUT’s question about the colour of the code letters.
The Spitfire in the background is one of the squadron’s about to be replaced Mk IXs.
I’m no expert on Spitfire colour schemes, but I assume that they were all painted in the standard high altutude colour scheme, which I believe was Medium Sea Grey upper surfaces, and PRU Blue undersides.
Jur,
G-AOEN was indeed c/n 502, according to the source mentioned in my last post. As it was almost certainly photographed at an airshow, I’m assuming (based partly on your last post) that it was painted up in these colours by Percival, perhaps for an ‘Farnborough’ type display.
Geoff.
I have a couple of 131 sqdn Christmas menues. Perhaps we can have a thread on these sometime in December?
My maternal grandfather, Edward James (Nobby) Clarke, was in the RAF, though ground based & something to do with the RAF police though he wasn’t a White Cap. We still have a lot of his letters home. My Mum’s brother, Edward George Clarke, was in the RAF in the 50s, 60s, 70s as an Engineering Officer (reached Wing/Cdr). Sadly both died before I became interested in the idea of recording their experiences.
Those of you who still have living relatives, like those in this thread, read & learn by our mistakes – Record their memories now before it’s too late. There isn’t as much time to do it as you may think.
Geoff.
Glad you like the photos, as for where/when,
1) Harrowbeer, sometime between 24/3/44 & 23/4/44. On the latter date ‘Token 46’MB935, and W/O Douglas Frederick Phillips (Aus) (401394), aged 25, failed to return from a patrol. Thought to have flown into the sea whilst descending through very low cloud & hit the sea.
Harrowbeer is now a common, and it seems that many of the blast pens still survive. It would probably be possible to located the same spots today, & take a comparison photo (then & now), hint hint!
2) Same location supposedly. Note naval ground crew! Looks to have D-day stripes on the wing so post D-day.
3) ‘U’ of 131 sqdn, pos MD168 (most likely), 160, or 173. Damage sustaned whilst straffing ‘Laval airfield’ but more likely Le Mans airfield, 12/6/44.
4) No info on this one, I’m afraid.
5) Harrowbeer again. MD123 was lost on the 12/6/44, Flt/Lt Vincent Kenneth Moody (hence NX-M!) (Can) (J/15362), O/C ‘A’ flt shot down & killed by flak, aged 24, whilst straffing Le Mans airfield.
6) Harrowbeer, taken between 26/2/44 & 5/6/44. Full code was NX-E.
7) No info again.
As can be seen by these photos, No 131 sqdn painted their D-day stripes much too thin, and pretty roughly too in some cases.
Geoff.
Perhaps we should also remember Mike Carlton here – who flew G-HUNT later. Who knows what he would be operating now, but for that tragic accident?
Geoff.
and just to bring the 170 up
Topical
I nearly posted the Blenheim one, mine’s obviousy from a different batch, the roundel isn’t so close to the bottom of the patch.
I hope we get some from the seventies, or earlier!