Email sent Neil. 🙂
I don’t mean to hijack the post,but whilst we’re on the subject of replica Spits,I thought I’d post this picture up.I went flying from a farm strip in Wiltshire in the summer and this was at the back of one of the hangars/barns.It doesn’t appear to have ever been completed,and there were no other bits lying around,so it looks like being just a spare fuselage.
I’d be interested to know what it was created for-a left over from the making of PoC perhaps??-who might have made it,etc.
Sound thinking Steve,I got a bit carried away when I first saw the pic.Seeing something on it’s feet with the prop on the front at first glance always suggests that something is close to flight-I’ll try and keep me head screwed on a bit tighter in future.Looking again at that pic and seeing the empty cockpit etc,I’m now wondering if it’s even a possibility for 2005!
Thanks Corsair,looks like she’s coming on a treat-a possibility for Legends ’04 maybe??
“I reckon he would’nt mind if I passed it along to you folks so you can see how it’s coming…..least I HOPE he does’nt mind….”
Might be wiser to check BEFORE posting! 😉
Whilst it would be nice to have a Fort dressed up as a “Kipper Kite” (Coastal Command aircraft),the one at Hendon,being a G, is the wrong version.IIRC,Coastal only operated B17E’s and F’s (as the Fortress IIa and II respectively),so the only version the RAFM’s example could portray would be the Fortress III which was used by 100 Group for special purposes such as ‘spoofing’ and radio jamming.It would need a huge amount of work doing to it to convert the RAFM’s Fort to this configuration,so personally i’d like to see her stay as she is and to see the money going elsewhere,eg a complete restoration of the Hampden.
I’d heard that Compton was under threat from some influential local character but I hadn’t heard Madonna’s name associated with it before.I’ve flown into Compton (with a friend flying the plane I should point out) a couple of times,and it’s a great little field.I remember lying there recovering from the after effects of some aerbatics one sunny afternoon,listening to the Skylarks and enjoying the atmosphere.Beautiful scenery too.Anyone who wants to put an end to a place like that ought to be wiped off the face of the planet if you ask me…:mad:
Correct me if I’m wrong,but I thought I read a few months back that the WW1 replicas which used to be flown from Booker were going to Compton Abbas to join some sort of collection/museum there.Anyone know anything more?
Thanks for sharing that Whalebone,sad to see so many being taken from us.
Another great RAF legend, Air Commodore Cyclops Brown passed away ealier this month,although his obituary only appeared in the last week.Follow the link for his online obituary which was published in the Telegraph on Wednesday.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=%2Fnews%2F2003%2F11%2F17%2Fdb1701.xml
Apologies all round,Spey is quite right,G-AOVF is not an ex-RAF example,don’t know why I thought it was.Sorry…
Just a minor point-is the Britannia part of BA’s collection or does it belong to RAFM?It currently wears a military scheme and has an RAF history,so presumably it’s owned by the museum and will go under cover?
Quite right DH,it was largely BEA’s fault,although DH were themselves partly to blame in not arguing strongly enough for sticking with the original ‘Big-Trident’ and simply bowing to the whim of BEA.
You mention that the original Trident would’ve been about the size of a 727-no coincidence there!Having opted for the small version of Trident,DH were then asked by our government to hand over all thier research data to Boeing as a gesture of goodwill,the idea being that the Americans would tell us all they knew-unfortunately we already knew more than they did,so didn’t get anything in return!Boeing were at the time developing the 727,and a large proportion of DH’s work was incorporated into it.So,we opted for an aircraft that was always going to be too small and gave all our research data to our nearest competitor-nice move Mr.Sandys!:mad:
Well it goes without saying that I hope to see her fly,but failing that it would be great to see her returned to taxiing status.To consider each of the above possibilities:
“1. Continue the dismantling process and move her by road to a museum who could house her – admittedly extremely limited options.”
What I’m wondering is whether there is a museum which could house her at all which doesn’t already have a Vulcan.The only place I can think of is the Science Museum (Wroughton). I’m also not sure that the costs and difficulties of dismantling and transport wouldn’t be greater than putting her back together!
“2. Start a fund raising exercise to reassemble her – hopefully employing volunteer manpower.”
This sounds like the most promising option to me,although whether it will be possible only time will tell.Hopefully it won’t have to be considered,but perhaps I’m being just a little too hopeful.:rolleyes:
Thanks for your suggestions chaps,some very interesting ideas. I hadn’t really thought about civvy stuff,I think perhaps if I did it would have to be about the HS Trident-what a monumental c*ck up of a development programme!The Trident was one seriously wasted oppertunity…:rolleyes:
As for chatting to veterans,that’s another good idea.My dad was in hospital for a relatively minor op a few years back,and he had a chap across the ward from him who flew as a Nav on Wellingtons and Lancs (two tours) and then went to RAF Oulton in Norfolk where he became the assistant lead Nav on 223Sqn, a special ‘Spoofing’ unit operating as part of 100Group in 1944-45. Sadly,I only managed to chat to him the once and I didn’t record any of what he said,something which I’ve regretted since.
Possibly the most striking thing was that he survived a mid-air collision with another Wellington on a mission to Bremen in 1941.Much of the belly of the bomber was ripped out,and the crew did a remarkable job in bringing the machine back to Binbrook. AVM Harris made a special detour to Binbrook just to meet the crew and marvel at the damage while he was on his way through the area the next day.The other machine involved failed to return.
It’s remarkable to think of the frail old man in his bed as being the same man who navigated 6 men and a stricken machine back across the North Sea in pitch blackness with no navaids or instruments working properly.You never know what that non-descript old chap shuffling past you in the street has done for you.
I was at IWM Lambeth just a few weeks back and Hess’ fuselage was there tucked into a corner on the upstairs flight gallery alongside the Lanc and Hali noses etc. It’s in reasonably good shape considering it’s age, the paintwork is in good nick.It used to just be on open display, but I think people were either damaging it or perhaps cutting themselves on the jagged bits,so it now has a glass screen around most of it.The reason it’s tucked into a corner is that the right hand side was badly damaged at the time-the oxygen bottles on the 110 were positioned inside the right hand face of the rear fuselage,and it seems soemone on the RAF ‘wreckovery’ team decided to cut away the whole area to get at the bottles,hence whacking great hole where the black cross used to be.In displaying it on the corner,they’re displaying it’s good side (and the side that people are less likely to cut themselves on.)
One of the DB601’s is also displayed alongside,although for reasons best known to themselves,they’ve mounted it upside-down.
Thanks for the link to the PRO site JDK, but sadly I’ve searched it and found absolutely nothing. I live just a couple of miles down the Thames from Kew,so it wouldn’t be too much trouble to go up there,but being as this is just for an aeromodelling review I was hoping that someone on the forum might just know the bare essentials to include in the review. I’ll keep looking and maybe I will end up at the PRO-I’ve been looking for something to write a book or article about,who knows,perhaps this could be it. 🙂