Nice shots Brian, interesting to see the sudden progress on the French SeaFury. Any idea what type of engine that is? Another -3350 or a -2800??
I’m thinking BazV’s comment may have been tongue-in-cheek, there was alot of debate about possible damage to the Typhoon when that loan was announced. As far as I’m aware it got there safe and sound and even had a repaint and other improvements along the way.
If the Spit XIV in question is MT847, then it’s already at Hendon and it doesn’t sound as though it has any bearing on possible outcomes at Manchester. It was in the Bomber Hall last time I was there about six months back.
I don’t see anything wrong with it being loaned out, Pima seems a top notch museum and they’ve been extremely open-minded about displaying aircraft in the colours of other nationalities, especially the UK/ Commonwealth. They have an ex-RCAF Catalina/Canso that’s being restoring in it’s original early war RCAF camouflage, a Blenhiem/Bolingbroke that has had a full restoration and two repaints in different RAF schemes…the list goes on (oh and don’t forget the efforts made with the Shackleton). A Spit would make a nice addition to “Commonwealth Corner” (my phrase). To my mind it’s just as important to promote our heritage overseas as it is to keep it going over here, especially in the US where we have had such close links in the past.
Just to add a little nugget for thought to the discussion, it’s worth pointing out that even pre-war many of the best known British aircraft makers were themselves grouped under the umbrella of larger companies. Avro and Gloster were owned by Hawker, Supermarine were owned by Vickers and Airspeed were owned by deHavilland, to give just a few examples. The trend of blending smaller Brit aircraft companies began way before the war, they just kept the original names so it’s less noticeable when we look back.
The Mysteres were ordered for the French AF with backing from the US, when the Fench AF were finished with them they had to be handed over to the Americans. This was done by delivering them to a USAF base in the UK. Not wanting to bother transporting them Stateside, the USAF tried a number of ways of getting rid of them, including loaning them out to UK museums, or in the Spadeadam case letting them be used as decoys.
This is great news for Bentwaters, a very characteristic type and completely appropriate. Hopefully it will prove to be a good draw for the public, if it increases the numbers through the door it surely can’t be a bad thing, especially as it appears to be a loan rather than a purchase with the increased cost the latter would entail.
As an aside, what is the current status of Alconbury? I’m a bit surprised the above A10 is still there.
There was a similar topic raised on here a year or two ago and the biggest factor discussed was the question of retirement and pensions. With people working longer and pensions getting smaller, the museum sector seems likely to lose a big chunk of its voluntary workforce in the future.
As for interest from future generations, I always see that as something that is in our hands and not a foregone conclusion.
Thanks for all the information guys, a shame that it won’t fly but still a great project.
I wonder what the prospects are for a future airworthy Marauder? There’s Kermit’s that hasn’t flown for several years and that seems to be it.
I hope Alloy won’t mind me adding to his thread, but just thought I’d spread the word that the project now has a website aswell as a Facebook page. Spotted the news on WIX.
Thanks for all the extra info on -AYR, it sounds as though it hasn’t been airworthy for a time, a real shame.
As for the 601 Sqn crest, the comment on GAR suggests that previous owner Torquil Norman is a 601 veteran. That’s that question answered.
An interesting article with some great pics, and it’s great that it has found a new home without going abroad.
Just a couple of quick questions;
Is it really the only flyer at the moment? I thought the NZ example was a regular flyer.
Just out of curiosity, what is the crest on the fin? It looks like the crest of 601 Sqn, but if so what’s the connection?
I dunno about everyone else, but my eyes almost pop out of my head every time I see these TVAL arrivals. Who would have thought even just a few years ago that we would see Snipe, Albatros, Be.2’s, Re.8 etc airborne in the UK for the Centenary? Just amazing, capped off ofcourse by the Bristol Scout. We live in amazing times.
Great news! Huge congratulations to everyone involved.
It looks much more modern to me, possibly the nose-case from a bomb of some sort? I think the black and yellow rings denote the type of bomb and the filling etc, hence why I say bomb rather than fuel tank. Yellow indicates high-explosive if I remember correctly.
I’m sorry to hear about this, does anyone know the reason if it proves to be true? Serious corrosion?
An amazing project as has already been said, even if it resulted in a static example it would still be a major achievement! Wishing you the very best with the project.
With regards the engine, would it be possible to substitute a Griffon for the Sabre? The Tempest prototype and Mk.1 were intended to have the Griffon, could the Tempest installation be copied for a Typhoon? Obviously it wouldn’t sound the same, but it might reduce some engine headaches? Just an armchair thought.