a JP and a Strikemaster (well it had wing tip tanks?)

Low and slow over Basingstoke heading North (ish) along the M3

I know the owner of the Sea Prince and Pembroke would love to add the C1 from Lasham to the collection at Bournemouth but all attempts to convince the present owners to sell are met with a blanket refusal as they are in the process of rstoring the aircraft themselves !!! The future for this aircraft and the rest of the Lasham collection does therefore not look too bright.

Lasham does stir up some “full and frank exchange of views” on here, I posted some pictures a while back as I’m only a 15 min drive from there, but I don’t think there is much restoration ongoing – they are not being scrapped etc, but seem more stored on axle deep grass with all that brings.

I’ve heard similar as well

there was a lot of overt and covert US support (AIM 9 L supply etc) – up to date snaps of defensive positions around Port Stanley etc would be have been of use, there were special forces on the ground at the landing ground etc, but I can see this being true. Especially looking for the Argentine navy, the PR-9’s from Wyton were there as well in Chile don’t forget so would have had the range to get to the Islands and back with images.

which books out of interest?

just short of vermin….

How anybody can justify a set up where I have to check my garden for “pet waste” before my 4 & 8 year old can go and play in it is beyond me. Any cat that comes near gets a swift splash of cold water from the hose, any “waste” gets humped over the fence – its that old adage, they have cats and love them, a by product of cats is “waste” that gets left in my garden (who has been told to get a cat, that way other cats won’t come to your garden…..) I love beer, a by product of my love is….. you see where this is going. Its a risk to my childrens health in their own garden and that is not acceptable. I don’t throw stones or shot them, but will use the hose or even better one of those massive water blaster guns.

What I did find that worked, was to take the s*** that they left and put it in a hedge over the road, then pour hot water and dettol etc over where it was left to kill the scent, they follow the smell and seem to do it in the hedge… for now,

standing ovation from me

Mondariz, I take it you have not read the links I sent. Let me state it again and then I’ll be silent. The world has cooled for the last 6 years in a row and has cooled overall since the strong El Niño in 1998. There are 6 or 7 or organisations supplying figures and they all agree; all that is except GISS run by Hansen who is Al Gore’s great Mate. The Figures from GISS have been shown to be open to interpretation and are widely discounted as being manipulated. It’s all there in the links in my previous post. I’m an engineer and have spent 30 years interpreting figures and even I can smell a rat with GISS. No one that knows their stuff will get up and say otherwise.

The IPCC is at the heart of the problem. Read the links and see how the reviewer’s have all been carefully chosen for their views and at the end of the day the statement for policy makers that the press so avidly reports is written by politicians and administrators and NOT scientists.
And to set the record straight:
Antarctic ice extent this year will again break all records, Arctic ice last year was nothing unusual despite the hysteria, and Polar bear populations are at an historic high!!! The sea level has not markedly increased when measured correctly; hurricanes and other storms are lower now than historically and certainly have not increased.

What has happened?
Well we have had a strong La ninja, hence the 2 cold winters (except Western Europe that was mild) and rubbish summers which is perfectly in keeping with these phenomenons. The sun has not had a sunspot for over 2 years and we are still in solar cycle 23 despite it being predicted we would be 2 years into 24. This has a huge influence on our climate.
No one denies that the Planet warmed from 1975 until 1998. In fact it has been warming since the end of the little ice age in the 1800’s. It’s now widely accepted by those of an open mind that In the US the 30’s was the warmest decade of the 20th century. Cooling occurred from 1940 to 1975.

And damming of all is the fact that chemical measurements of CO2 in the atmosphere put the concentrations higher around 1820 at 450 ppm and again in 1944 at 410 ppm as against 385ppm today. The IPCC has suppressed this information and we have to ask why which is what’s happening now. Clearly natural forces have more influence than the IPCC will acknowledge. However it has to be said that CO2 is not evenly distributed in the atmosphere so measuring it is fraught with difficulty. If anyone says otherwise ask them to prove it.
In fact I would ask this. What is the global average temperature and how on earth do you measure it. If someone gives a simple answer to that they are lying.
Now sit back and enjoy the ride because some sacred cows are about to be kicked into touch. And a whole revenue stream is about to be cut off. Please don’t make the error of thinking that I’m some sort of eco terrorist. I have done more work to save fuel burn and improve emissions in diesel engines than most and know very well what is and what isn’t a pollutant. I just deal in facts and not fantasy, real engineering and not computer games.

Excellent point, well made. Thank you

which movie has the classic line??

Found this today, hope this lot realise what the armed forces do for them ?

http://bristol.indymedia.org/article/688607?condense_comments=false

is it Full Metal Jacket OR Heartbreak Ridge with “Shut your face Hippie” quote from the Gunnery Sgt ?

about sums it up………IMHO of course………. tree hugging save the gay whale 2CV drivers…..:mad:

Ummmm

Nooo! The aircraft will still be a one-off and very spectacular.

The test would be if there were a second Vulcan restored to flight a few years hence.

Trust me, if 558 had been doing the rounds for even five years there would be nothing like the interest in another.

Moggy

lots of people chuffed to see two B-17’s last week-end and sorry not to see three…..