ChackoUAE already has bought shares in MAKO project. I haven’t read it would buy Golden Eagle. May be Golden Eagle is pushed for F-16 blk 60 training.
UAE is also buying HAWKS. GAMCO a UAE based aircraft maintainance company is being upgraded to service all the middle eastern Hawks.
ChackoOriginally posted by AinuMan
what!? The T-50/A-50 expensive to operate and maintain!? Where did you hear that? It’s not even in service yet. But since many of it’s parts is derived from the F-16 (an already one of the easier to maintain aircraft).. the T-50 should be similar.
The estimated Service life of A-50 is 8000 hrs. Costs not mentioned. If it got commonality with F-16, IMHO it should be expensive. But if Daewoo is going to produce parts it may be lower.
ChackoOriginally posted by Arthur
It could well have failed with the order being cancelled (hey, we’re talking about India here), but i do know of three Ajeet IIs. E2414, E2426 (which indeed crashed in december 1982) and E2427. The two surviving ones have been seen with 2sqn as late as 1991, possibly as hack.
:rolleyes: I miss understood you. I regret 🙁
ChackoOriginally posted by Jagan
Brute,The Ajeet Trainer development came too late – By the time the prototypes were being build and test flown, the IAF had taken a decision to retire them and use MiG-27s. Only Three Two seaters rolled off the production line. One lost – two went to No.2 Sqn to see some service in type training. That figure of 30 (whatever the source) does not hold good.
regards
Jagan
Thanks for clearing up Jagan. 3 becomes 30 😀 Grapevine.
But the point was on Aurther. He claimed that Indians couldn’t have done it. :rolleyes:
Jagan Maruts too had twin seater trainers. How many were produced?
ChackoVympel,
Thats correct. 😎
MiG-29K will sport “Zhuk-MEh” (It will also have foreign Avionics )MiG-29 MKI?)
The Russian Airplane Building Corporation MiG (a federal state unitary enterprise) reports that on 20 January 2004, after 7 years of tough competitive struggles with the leading aircraft building corporations of the world, a contract was signed for the delivery of ship-based MiG-29K fighters to India.
The total of the contract is more than 700 million dollars.
“According to the contract, 16 airplanes (12 combat and 4 combat training), and also the unique full hardware for training flying and maintenance personnel, including simulators and interactive ground and sea based training systems, are included in the package.
Full completion of delivery is planned for 2007 – 2008. An option for the subsequent delivery of 30 more airplanes in the period to 2015 is provided also.
The contract for delivery of the MiGs is an essential part of a complex Russo-Indian deal for obtaining and reequipping the “Admiral Gorshkov” heavy aircraft carrying cruiser, which was the main point of the visitation program to India of Russia’s defense minister Sergey Ivanov.
The MiG-29K, supplemental information
The MiG-29K/KUB airplanes are representatives of a family of multirole fourth-generation fighters based on the well-known MiG-29 lightweight tactical fighter.
MiG-29K/KUB features:
• A digital four-channel fly-by-wire control system (LCA FBW?), modern piloting and navigational equipment and the capability to be equipped withforeign avionics.
• A weapons system control complex: the “Zhuk-MEh” multifunctional radar with functions for operation in air-to-air and air-to-ground modes and also ground mapping, a laser optical location station ((KVANTOVAYA OPTIKO-LOKATSIONNAYA STANTSIYA)) and a helmet-mounted sight. • Modern liquid crystal multifunctional displays in the crew’s cockpit (French MFD’s).
• The operating control set-up on the HOTAS principle – the airman can execute all the main operations while not removing his hand from the airplane’s control stick and engine control handle.
• A wide spectrum of guided and unguided weapons of the air-to-air and air-to-ground class, including the newest anti-shipping (Brahmos?)and anti-radar missiles with a capability for adaptation to Western manufactured weapons.
• The combat usage radius is significantly increased owing to the use of in-flight refueling systems adapted to international standards, and also owing to an increase of the volume of the internal fuel tanks.
• A crew rescue system, which operates effectively in all altitude and speed ranges.
Production of the MiG-29K/KUB: will be realized in the new RSK MiG production complex in the Lukhovitsy region of the Moscow Oblast’.
Source: 21.01.04, RSK MiG Company
ChackoOriginally posted by Arthur
It could well have failed with the order being cancelled (hey, we’re talking about India here), but i do know of three Ajeet IIs. E2414, E2426 (which indeed crashed in december 1982) and E2427. The two surviving ones have been seen with 2sqn as late as 1991, possibly as hack.
A total of 79 Ajeets were built by the time production ended in 1982.
(hey, we’re talking about India here)
comments does not hold true in this respect.
I have gone with the popular trend by saying that HAL never built these trainers. The problem is not much info is avaliable on what was the mix of Ajeets and Ajeet trainers. As many as 30 of Ajeet trainer are said to be built by HAL (although i myself don’t believe it)
You can always give a benefit of doubt.
ChackoRAF had a tandem-seat trainer version called Gnat T.1. There were 105 numbers of them. Cost of maintainin it was high, cockpit was cramped and cramped and poor visibility for instructor. Hawk was designed to do away with this trainer.
HAL also tinckered on a two-seat trainer version of the Ajeet (modified Gnat) It had a lengthened fuselage and a tandem dual-cockpit design. It was never produced. First prototype was built in 1982 which crashed in same year. The second prototype flew a year after but the programme faded out. Finally Hawk was chosen as AJT :rolleyes:
Both British and Indians graduated from Gnat trainers to Hawk, what a coinsidence 😀
ChackoMi-8 aint dead, its been repackaged as Mi-17 AKA Mi-8TMB. Its good for High altitudes and hot conditions. Its main didderence is TB-3-117A turboshaft engines which forced the designer to put tail rotor at left hand side. Another is additional air filters for turbine intakes. Basic platform remains same.
ChackoGnat is a wonderful option. But a good engine/electronics on HF-24 Marut is equally good option.
I always wondered why India cannot develop aircrafts varients based on HF-24 for training and cheap BVR platform for air defence?
ChackoOriginally posted by dirtyharry
The 33rd fighter division deployed in Choinquin indeed is dedicated reacting to India. Since India detonated nuclear devices in 1998 was a challenging at China’s national security,those deployment in peace time was very necessary.
And those Su27s will escort heavy bombers H6s into India’s heart land to stop any further provocations like launching ballistic missles!
Only one division wasnt enough to neutralizing threats from India, PLAAF should deploy more J11s to the Chendu district to carry out deeper escorts for H6s bombers in order to counter India’s new threat the Agni missles!China was over deploying Su30s at the Taiwan Strait,since China has 500 SRBMs already,Taiwan will be serverly damaged under China’s strike.And the Patriot Pac3 was no match of such a massive SRBMs also Taiwan has limited airports available.At least one division of Su30MKKs should deploy to support the 33rd division in order to make India’s Agni missles under PLAAF’s control.After the J10s went into service in quantity J10 will be deploying both Taiwan Strait and the Chendu military district to achieve greater air superiority!
Regards
First of all Indian nuke and long range missile developments are geared against direct Chinese nuclear and missile threat (and proxy threats from nuke and missiles to Pakistan). Lets not equate J-11 deployments wrt Agni deployments. Also the China anxiety is not just an Indian phenomena. Asean, Japan, Russia in immedieate vincinity and a lot of nations away from the region are having similar apprehension. And its not just one way, China’s two core worries are over Taiwan and illegally occupied Tibet. India forms the crux of the matter threat wrt Occupied Tibet.
Chinese through 70’s raised missile groups in Tibet to deter India making an adventure in Tibet. Also it proliferated nukes and missiles in neighbourhood to keep India occupied. Indian reacted by raising its own missile and nuclear group. India had matched (almost) matched Chinese deployments. The deployments looked similar
1) Army regiments near border with similar capabilities.
2) Missile and nuclear regiments. (will be completed after 3500 km range Agni deployed)
3) Airbases on both sides with similar capabilities.
4) Chinese presence near indian shores prompted Indian activities in S.China sea.
5) ELINT and EW stations all along the border.
6) Indian support to countries around China as China did with countries around India.
Chinese next planned to peace time deploy SU-27’s 33rd fighter division and upgraded Tibet bases for realtime situation. India too started forming peace time SU-30MKI squadrens in AFB Poona and is upgrading the forward airbases so that they can be deployed realtime.
ChackoOriginally posted by Arthur
Well, the least bit we can do is immediately start bashing each and every bit of PS crap somebody posts here. AFAIK they are perfectly legitimate flametargets: we have enough of our own crap floating through this board, there is no need to import other people’s dung as well.If anyone knows Rahul Devnat from whatever board he posts on, please tell him that i think he’s a dumbass. Neither do i have high esteem for certain individuals importing that stuff here.
People should remember that they ain’t the bench mark for behviour here.
ChackoCanberras in IAF are used for training now. South-Western Air Command aso seems to operate 7 Canberras and Western Air Command has 8 Canberras.
Chacko
By RahulDevnath posted in Proton River Forums
ChackoOriginally posted by troung
“India is insignificant. (Even is all quality assets are deployed against India)”China’s best units and equipment faces Taiwan, Japan, the Koreas and the South China Sea. Truthfully said China points better units at the Philippines then India.
On the contrary PLAAF Flankers and modern troops are in Chengdu MR.The Flankers are stationed in Chongqing.
Are you aware the peace time deployment of Flanker in Chongqing (PLAAF 33rd Division) in Southwest China faces India and India is Chengdu MR’s primary concern. I have the links to prove it.
China’s nuclear arsenal in Tibet is at least eight inter-continental ballistic missiles, 70 medium range and 20 inter-mediate range missiles. Other than this, Tibet also has 17 radar stations, 14 military airfields, and eight missile bases. China currently possesses approximately 300-400 nuclear warheads, of which a large majority are reportedly stationed in Tibet.
China has also established a nuclear missile deployment and launch site for DF-4 intercontinental missiles at the Tsaidam basin. The report mentions that the larger Tsaidam site has two missiles stored horizontally in tunnels near the launch pad. There is also a smaller Tsaidam site, details of which remain unknown. More DF-4 missiles are located at Delingha site in Amdo,200
kms southeast of Larger Tsaidam.
Further, four CSS-4 missiles are also reported to be based in Delingha, in Amdo, with a range of 8000 miles, and capable of striking at the United States, Europe and Asia. Moreover, Chinese military presence in Tibet is conservatively estimated at 500,000 personnel. By the early 1990s, China had deployed 500,000 soldiers, a quarter of its standing army, on the Tibetan plateau, half of them based on the border between India and Tibet, half in central Tibet.
I have links to back it up. But as usual the chinese will come up with psyc ops thing and other links are false…….. thingy 😀
Rest to idiots calling me idiot are idiots (i hope this makes more sence to them)
ChackoGood work Harry.:cool:
I have attached the only LCA-N side profile I have – according to which your drawing’s nose looks a bit too “fatty”.
I agree with that.
Check this picture
In your picture nose is bit fat and the ADA site NLCA nose is sharpened pensil shapped. This is because Nose of NLCA has been drooped for better cockpit vision.
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