Give India another chance:

Now, what sort of a talk ….is now the one calling the shots..

Fine we did agression on yoy once , so what? we routenly violate your borders, so what? We have given nuclear and missile tech/mterials to your neighbour against you, so what? Other neighbours are being trained and brainwashed against you, so what? We have drafted legislations against you in UN, so what? we have threatened you with war when you were fighting agaist your rabid neighbours, so what? We even supplied arms to your rabit neighbours when you were going to figh, so what? we have directly/indirectly created.supported armed insurgency in your country , so what? We have occupied a monk country and then siezed your land, so what? We have positioned just 200 nuclear tipped missiles aginst you in tibet. We are buildig roads on the border for………………..

Whew! i don’t see we have done much against you. I don’t see enemity. China is so peacefull, merciful, and compasionate. Alleluia Chinese
are most mercifull. 😀

Dosent mention if she was Tracked with the subs were submerged or when she was just sailing towards surfaced , At the height of cold war and specially with Kilos around you are bound to get tracked surfaced or submerged.

You didn’t mention flying 😀 j/k

If it was not submerged, then why track? If it was floating, they would have called it follow, spot or chase.

This is what Japenese Admiral had to say about Kilo (you can blame the cold was ductch courage speak

TT: Are their more advanced submarines such as the Kilo Class submarines so easy to detect?

Kawamura: It is easy. Kilos are not cutting-edge submarines. In the past, the US and Japan easily tracked Russia’s submarines, and in comparison, the Russian submarines were quicker than China’s.

Had a good laugh 😀

Hehe…

Modern Military Aviation Forum gone stealth…

[QUOTE=Neptune]Austin, I think the learning curve of Russia is one of the most advanced in the world, they probably know a lot more about launching missiles/rockets than India, yet they do have considerably more failures. The money at stake doesn’t really allow for so many risks to be taken, normally it shouldn’t go wrong, I can’t remember the last French or US rocket that came down by failure, yet Russian ones do it all the time. ……..QUOTE]

1) Depends on the make of the missiles. If the older lots are getting launched, there has to be problem. The current versions don’t fail. How can you compare US, French commercial launchers to the old ICBM in terms of launche credibility. On commercial US launchers vs Commercial Russian launchers, i don’t see marked differences.
2) US or France use converted ICBM for launch of sats? Nah! I never heard of it. Even if, whats the make of the missiles?

I found some interesting pics

Thats a good indication how they lifted Kursk

The cable hole where the whole debated is pointed at. This picture suggests that the hole was made to Keep the hull in upright position and not lifting up.

Look at this image, where did the hole go?