Normally? You have to sell something first before the practice becomes “normal.”……………..”

There have been some low profiled sales and service activities . Thats why “normally”

really?

PAF Sabres were also used to attack IAF airfields, and even on these attack missions still manage to down more IAF jets, what applied to the hunter also applied to the Sabre…….

1)Difference between A2A going on bombing roles and shooting down enemy jets is one thing and A2G going on bombing role and shooting enemy jets.
2)pre emptive surprise strikes on Indian territory vs Deep striking with enemy fully alert on Pakistani territory.
3) Please tell me which specific inscidents are you talking about?

IMHO this excercise was jus about skills. AFIK aftermath of 1971 a US Air Commander had enquired if IAF was using computers on aircraft for accuracy in bombing and were impressed by the A2A encounters between fully loaded hunters and Sabres (reference “My Years with IAF” by Air Marshal PC Lal). The BVR scenario was not played in COPE-04. USAF is technologically still superior. They are definition of superiority means they should be 2-3X more superior if IAF is X superior. They want to be generations ahead for airsuperiority.

As Usual

J-10 is as usual different. 😀 😉

Originally posted by YellowSun

A day or two into the 03 Dubai show a T-50 model suddenly showed up on the LM stand in full UAE colours – that meant something was up.

It’s been mentioned here that the UAE is buying Hawks – no, they’re not – there is no firm contract with BAES for anything right now and so there’s everything to play for. Hawk might be a sensible choice in many ways but BAE has zero leverage in the UAE whereas LM couldn’t be better placed.

I was there at Dubai airshow most of the days, even 2nd and 3rd day. No T-50’s were there. The only AJT’s featured there ere L-150B and HAWK.

Regarding the HAWKS
BAE SYSTEMS and GAMCO near agreement on Hawk support joint venture
Discussions between BAE Systems and GAMCO on forming a Hawk support joint venture, based in the United Arab Emirates, are at an advanced stage.

Regarding UAE Buying more HAWKs

UAE Air Force looks at more Hawk aircraft
posted on 10/12/2003
The UAE Air Force is looking at more Hawk aircraft as well as upgrading some from its present fleet of 34, said a top official of BAE Systems. The UAE has three different types of Hawks – the Mark 61, Mark 63 and Mark 102 with glass cockpit. There are over 100 Hawks in the Gulf with Saudi Arabia operating 50, the UAE 34, Oman 16 and now Bahrain gets six. (The Gulf News)

Originally posted by MarocMirage
Kuwait was interested in the Mirage 2000-5 and the Rafale but if France wanted to do business with them they had to buy back the old Mirage F-1CKs

Qatar has replaced Kuwait as major base for US. But Kuwait remains an important all of US. I wouldn’t see French air based equipment. I predict Kuwait buying F-16 like UAE.