Chinese govt supresses the incidents and if leaked tries to bring out as little as possible. just like Bird flu. Chinese denied it for an year until they were forced to admit. They even supressed it. Who brought the news out? Even BBC and some external media have to go through the Chinese gevt censorship. Star TV had to bend down in order to get into China.
How is EPOC into such practises?
On thwe village idiot comment, you have no better reputation. tell me how better you are than me?
The burden of proof lies with the one making claims againest general consensus. Im not making the claim you are, so the burden lies on you not I
Lol, you are the one who said you will embarass me. Now you yourselves cannot prove than Commie mouthpieces are credible. How can you? They simply aren’t. Now you are asking me to prove something which you think is wrong. So the onus lies on you to prove. I haven’t changed a bit “Epoch is more reliable than Chinese commie official mouthpieces”
Go on prove that Commie mouth piece is credible. Else instead of me, my friends will laugh at you.
Why should I, its up to you to prove why it is not. I have no dispute with it. EPOCH is more credible!
Why should I, its up to you to prove why it is not. I have no dispute with it. EPOCH is more credible!
What failed to make an engine?
The engine already has numerous test flights on its own power.
They are stretching its endurance record as long as possible and it has passed the latest series of 4 month endurance tests.
It is already offered for use in electric power generation.
Just like it was integrated in J-10 and J-11 last year and China was never supposed to order engines again from Russia. :diablo:
Ok, embarrass me. :dev2:
Ok, embarrass me. :dev2:
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Let us not forget that China is capable of building a Flanker nose to tail alone without importing a single Russian component other than the engine (but that last one will be resolved soon enough). ……
ROFL. On last years arguments, I clearly remeber that you affirmately said that WS-10A was ready and already flying. You also said that China will not be importing AL-31 engines as WS-10 A is superior to the Russian ones. besides all J-10 and J-11 new produces will feature that. Now you tell us that this issue will be sorted? Crobato, how many lies you will cook up? (for someone calls EPOC not credible 😮 )
And yes, Sukhoi has warranties and they have a standard warranty period just like every manufacturer in the planet. Given that you don’t pay a high price on the MKI, I doubt that Sukhoi ever gave you such a sweeping warranties contract.
Erm… they have as this is the first me they have exported an engine with TVC compatability. Chinese engine are standard produces. I suppose your “thinking” is flawed as usual.
And don’t give me that crap that Chinese technocrats can’t manage Sukhoi. Sukhoi understands they got a lot more income at stake in China compared to India, and if Sukhoi fails, China will simply stop buying from Sukhoi and make their own Flankers, which by the way, they are so doing already. Let us not forget China already has their own engines, which even Salyut believes will only be deployed in a matter of time. If Sukhoi and Salyut doesn’t clean up, they get replaced.
They can’t. They buy up all Russian obselete tehnology, which does happen to be cutting edge in China. This is what you guys cooked up last time when you said China will stop purchases. ROFL, they have been beggig Russia that they want a deal like what Russia has given to India. On Slaut engine deal, i suppose after all that hype of WS-10A being sucesfull and never need Russian engine lie, China signs a 800 mil $ deal for saving its J-10 project. China builds its own entire flanker? Crobato, more habitual lies?
I agree with Austin. Force has a quality thats undisputable. Mistakes happen. Even janes makes mistakes, as a matter of fact the Force writers churn up much better and credible content than Rahul Bedi of Janes and Vivek Raghuvanshi of Defence News , in my opinion.
OKio these gossips things really wind me up because they get me excited that india will get something good and it doesnt happen or theres no evident like the 200 ship MRCA that is not going to happen.. can you guys stay away from conjecture and hypothesis .. dwell on it too much.
also if you do have a source that india is interested in the mig 5th gen apart from a small trip then could you post it?
Agreed!
Nice design :). What are its full specs?
Obvious ones are
1. Single engine
2. sub 20 tons
3 conventional ie 4-4.5 gen.
Good! I assumed you would say it looks like EF 😉
No one doubts the Mig-31/31M interception capability , Its perhaps the best out there , But the question is how does it fit into IAF strategy..
What IAF strategy? care to explain? 😮
Even if the Russians saved that project by redesigning it and providing avionics and armaments because Chinese kept testing it for 15 few years, it still is is wholly indegenious Chinese design based on indegenious platform, fly on wopen engine etc.
Although based on the MiG-21 and bearing a resemblance to the Mikoyan Gurevich Ye-152A ‘Flipper’ prototype, the J-8 is a unique Chinese indegenious design. 😀
What is yaklov project BTW?
