Actually, I was wondering why the ESA didn’t launch their own satellite using one of their Ariane 5 boosters. Why rely on some old Soviet-era ICBM cobbled together for commercial use when they’re perfectly capable of putting a satellite into orbit themselves?

Sometimes it depends on launch schedules. Most launches are usually booked years in advance. There is also a limitation of the number of launchers an agency can churn out is a year.

Russian converted ICBM’s looks like launcher super market. Most are avaliable at short notice. In addition to savings in launch costs.

Yeah! itsdifficult to discuss with some one who thinks limited abuse is better than total abuse. The argument could have been taken forward without those fire works. I stuck to the argument without calling any ones argument stupid. You set the benchmark on discussion standards, I excelled, don’t blame me for that. This helped me forming a my opinion how to treat you in future. Then you go on and tell me your abuse was better than my abuse. Thank you Garry B. I will remember next time that your views are supreme and no one is suppose to cross it and logically avoid your highness .

Neptune,

Another quesstion. If the vent was made to attach cable and winch the sub up, only one side of the vent should have the strech mark, where as the whole vent has uniform cave it. Secondly the vent is very close to the damaged hull. I suppose, if it had been winched up the damaged side up, the hull would have torn from that side. Besides, other vents (of the 26 you mention) don’t show up assuming they have been eqvi distant from the shown vent….

Without a pointed tip… No.

If it ………..
Crap theory full of holes.

Ouch! The mouse that roars! :diablo:

IMO, there are many torps today to sustain enough KE to penetrate a double hull. 533 mm/21 is a common diameter for a heavy torp.

“Could be” the rear bigger diameter of the torp (or the full torp) could not penetrate the outer hull and acted as a cork for water not rushing through the hole. Another reason I think this may be the case is because a hole would have depressurised the submarine section resulting sub to be crushed (or atleast a part of it) like tin can because of the depth pressure. Even if there was a internal blast and the sub developed a hole, the result would have been same. Hence i strongly believe that if that hole happened while the sub was at the bottom of sea, then it should have been crushed.

On why it hit torp chamber, “might be” the sub tried to evade and got unlucky or delibetretely tried to manouver to take hit on non-human inhabitating area. i am not sure.

I too am not an expert on underwater torpedo hit. But this is a good simulation. See the ship hull cavity due to brahmos impact.

Starboard side where it hit.
http://frontierindia.com/fiimages/mil/indiannavy/brahmos/brahmos%20hits%20ship%20on%20starboard%20side.jpg

Exit from port side
http://frontierindia.com/fiimages/mil/indiannavy/brahmos/Brahmos%20impact%20on%20portside.jpg

Your take.

JonS,

talk for yourself

Whoever wants to ignore it, they can.

g’day

ROFL .. not bringing our personal differnces in this thread .. can you back your original comment .. BTW I recently read a certain online publication called FrontierIndia publishing articles from Indian Express .. hmm shh shh that’s all legal (dont tell anyone!!) :biggrin:

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Guess what, the latest cover issue “of” frontierindia.com is from The Tribune .. 😮 😀 :rolleyes: Talk about “plagrisation” 😮

Dude, those are old and forgotten articles breathing new life. I have permission from most of them. Others I have written and awating permission.

I don’t pass of current news as FI news. Those news companies pay for it. There are so many people who sweat and earn their livelyhood based on it. If the original sources are not given their due recognition, they will eventually die off. Your attempt robs them of the required page hits on which basis they get advertisements. I really don’t believe in copyright infringement and passing of others stuff as mine.

I better give original links to the new sources and do my bit of giving them credit.

Bull ****. Brahmos codes are Indian developed. All the software controls of the Brahos is Indian.

I can understand if they threatened on th SPVRD engine design. Rest every thing is already with India.